Ya know
when I was at the airport getting stuff sorted (boy do the airlines screw
up) .. we had to stop to say the pledge .. I found this really odd .. in an
airport and being asked to stop what your doing to say the pledge .. Wonder
how non-americans feel about that ..


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From: "Father Cajone" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:21 AM
Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military...Swearing in


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> Ouch...I messed trying to reply to this earlier.  Ok...after going through
embarrasing things like being naked and having someone poke their finger
where I'd rather not have them do that as an 18 year old Army volunteer
after being told to "bend over and spread them!"...I moved on. After a 2-3
minute interview by a supposed "Psychiatric Interviewer" I moved along
through the process. After passing through the induction mill and being
allowed to put my clothes back on I raised my right hand and swore my
allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America and all that
it stood for. This included the Bill of Rights. Why was this important to me
even to this day?
> Please let me explain a bit more...the Pledge of Allegiance was born as
the result of a Cracker Jack contest during a time when people in the Nazi
regime were swearing their oaths to a personal leader they called "Der
Fuerher" instead of a set of principles as written in the Constitution of
these United States of America. American children from that day forward
swore allegince to our flag.
> During the McArthy era of the early 1950's the Flag Pledge was ammended to
add the words "under God" to what had previously been "One Nation
indivisible with liberty and justice for all".  This was a deliberate
insertion in order to differentiate our difference between the USA as a God
fearing (and led) nation as opposed to the "Godless Evil Empire" of the
USSR.  We have many people in this great nation that might not believe in a
UNIVERSAL GOD of their definition but believe in the nation and the concepts
in which we live and might even be bettter citizens than the ones who echo
the words they hear in narrow minded gatherings and esp on Fox News!
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> >From a message by Father Cajone about Re: OT Military...Swearing in:
> > >From a message by prestone about Re: OT Military:
>  > > whether they fire the actual round or not isn't the point.
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>  >  > >From a message by pagan about Re: OT Military:
>  >  > > You would be surprized to know that the overwhelming
majority of
service men and women never fire a shot outside of basic training or a
firing range. In fact, there are more opportunities to save lives or make
living conditions more habitable than to take them. Yes, even in an all out
war situation.
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>  >  >  > >From a message by prestone about Re: OT Military:
>  >  >  > > as long as you don't have a problem killing
your fellow human
beings, go for it.
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>  >  >  >  > >From a message by sloppy about OT Military:
>  >  >  >  > > With an anticipated graduation from
college in December,
I've been pondering what to do from this point on in life.  I recently hit
upon the idea of the military, was wondering if people could offer input,
horror stories, advice, warnings, etc.  Anything would be appreciated.
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