From: m-brodie@cs.uiuc.edu (Mark Brodie)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess.analysis
Subject: Re: Two Knights Defense - Fried Liver Attack
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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Izya Yagolnitser  writes:
>I quote: "As we analyzed the variations we became less convinced that this
>traditional evaluation is correct, and it may be that the "beginner's 
blunder"
>is fully playable after all!" (from page 213)Note the "may be" here.
>Then Mr. Schiller goes on to tell us that 8...Ne7 is bad and that he will 
ry
>to "resuscitate" 8...Nb4! Eric quotes extensively from Estrin, but gives 11.
>Bxd5 and goes on trying to show how there is no clear win for White. In the
>end, however, and I quote again: "The above must be taken with a grain of
>salt, since of the authors plays this line."  Now why would Mr. Schiller
>suddenly forget about Estrin's analysis here? I tell you what - may be his
>copy was missing a page :-) Or maybe English translators did not think it 
as
>important to include the following paragraph from the original Estrin's work
>of 1970, laying in front of me now, pages slightly yellowed, text in
>Russian... (Schiller's copy is published in 1983) : "For a long time it was
>believed that after 10...Nd4 11. Bxd5+ [etc. snip mine]  Black, while down a
>pawn, has drawing chances because of different color Bishops. However 
nstead
>of  obvious 11. Bxd5+ White, as pointed out by V. Panov, has to play 11. 
Qe4!,
>threatening 12. Nxd5, 11...c6 12. Re1!, regaining the piece and keeping the
>advantage. This important improvement changed the evaluation of this entire
>variation." This is my translation, I am not a professional, but there is 
very
>little text, so I doubt I messed it up badly. Eric Schiller either ignored 
r
>did not know about V. Panov's 11. Qe4! Either way, now you and everyone else
>who reads this do :-)
>Good luck, and don't let it be me across the table from you next time you
>decide to play 5...Nxd5? :-)
>P.S. Aside from the missed 11. Qe4!, "The Big Book of Busts" covers this
>variation very well, and knowing how hard it would be for you to come by the
>original Estrin's book, I recommended NM Schiller's instead.
The copy of Estrin that I know has:
" 11. Qe4 c6 12. Re1 (recommended by Panov, but...) 12...Kf7! "
and a long line is given with advantage to Black.
Mark Brodie
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