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----- Original Message -----
From: "col sanders" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 9:28 PM
Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military


>
> Not every illegal immigrant is here to deny us freedom and overthrow our
> government... some are here picking oranges in Florida so you can afford
> cheap produce...
>
> Cherokee wrote:
>
> >If they had been carrying an assault rifle while they invaded our
> >nation, then would execution be warranted ?
> >
> >
> >--- col sanders  wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I can accept our disagreement until the last paragraph where you
> >>sound
> >>crazier than I do... heh, execute all illegal immigrants? heheheh
> >>you're
> >>nuts .
> >>
> >>Col Sanders
> >>
> >>Cherokee wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Neither Waco nor Ruby Ridge were handled appropriately, but both of
> >>>those events occurred before that USA Patriot act, so I don't see
> >>>
> >>>
> >>how
> >>
> >>
> >>>they apply to your argument. And in both cases, serious violations
> >>>
> >>>
> >>of
> >>
> >>
> >>>the law transpired before the "illegal invasions".
> >>>
> >>>You call me naive, I call you paranoid.  Do I care if the federal
> >>>government wants to wiretap my house and read my email?  Not a bit,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>let
> >>
> >>
> >>>them knock themselves out. If in exchange, I am better protected
> >>>
> >>>
> >>from
> >>
> >>
> >>>some lunatic who plans to blow up my building, then that is more
> >>>
> >>>
> >>than a
> >>
> >>
> >>>fair trade.
> >>>
> >>>If at some point down the line someone tries to use some of that
> >>>"intelligence" against me, let them try, I have
done nothing wrong.
> >>>
> >>>One of our biggest problems is our lack border security and weak
> >>>immigration controls.  The Soviet Union had absolutely NO trouble
> >>>
> >>>
> >>with
> >>
> >>
> >>>illegal immigrants because everyone knew they would be shot if they
> >>>were caught in the USSR illegally.
> >>>
> >>>Do I care about the rights of some illegal Arab immigrant that has
> >>>
> >>>
> >>been
> >>
> >>
> >>>arrested and held indefinitely?  Not at all, These people are not
> >>>
> >>>
> >>U.S.
> >>
> >>
> >>>Citizens, they are not protected by our Constitution.  They
> >>>
> >>>
> >>"invaded"
> >>
> >>
> >>>our country and should be executed.
> >>>
> >>>--- col sanders  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>It really goes beyond that, to things like Waco and Ruby Ridge,
> >>>>neither
> >>>>of which was a legal invasion, at least at the very
beginning.  But
> >>>>by
> >>>>your comments I do think you are being naive.  I guess
there really
> >>>>is
> >>>>no argument beyond that...
> >>>>
> >>>>Cherokee wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I don't think we are in any danger of seeing Joe
McCarthy the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>sequel.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>If I am wronged by someone in a position of power,
I have adequate
> >>>>>recourse to defend myself.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>My answer to your fear of someone extorting you by
using something
> >>>>>ambarrassing...   don't do anything to be embarrassed about.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>If you already have, let them reveal it rather
than allow yourself
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>to
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>be blackmailed.  If you run for Governor, your
deep dark secrets
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>are
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>sure to be exposed. :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--- col sanders  wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Well, I have been pulled over for having
pro-gun bumper stickers,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>and
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>then interrogates on the side of the road by 3
cruiser's worth of
> >>>>>>State
> >>>>>>Troopers.   All of this because of my bumper
stickers.  I was not
> >>>>>>even
> >>>>>>given a ticket.  Add to the loss of privacy,
the databases they
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>are
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>compiling, (read about the return of John
Tower to the pentagon
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>and
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>his
> >>>>>>database project) and you have the potential
for abuse that
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>dwarfs
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>what
> >>>>>>Hoover was acused of.  I go to Church, I
attend rallies (like the
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>one
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>on
> >>>>>>Wednesday) and have entertained the idea of
running for Governor
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>or
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>some
> >>>>>>other state position.  I am ambitious and hope
to do well
> >>>>>>professionally.  While not alive then, I have
read about Mcarthy
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>and
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>the
> >>>>>>Red scare, I read about the lives he ruined. 
I am familiar with
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>allegtions about Hoover and his own extortion
using embarassing
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>info
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>about people to his own ends.  I can find ALOT
to be afraid of,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>and
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>it
> >>>>>>tends to be a result of people ignoring the
bill of rights and
> >>>>>>passing
> >>>>>>laws that give the government powers that
would not have even
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>helped
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>them stop any terrorist attacks in the first
place.  You may
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>naively
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>believe that every person in power will both
be on your side, and
> >>>>>>also
> >>>>>>be so good as to not misuse their power.  Look
at history, look
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>at
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>the
> >>>>>>whole reason for the Bill of Rights in the first place.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Col Sanders
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Cherokee wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Just read that article.  Not a single line
concerns me in the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>least.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>What specifically are YOU afraid of that
inhibits your personal
> >>>>>>>freedoms?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>--- col sanders  wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Here are some specifics on the Patriot
Act  if you really are
> >>>>>>>>interested...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
>
>>>>http://www.eff.org/Privacy/Surveillance/Terrorism_militias/20011031_eff_
usa_patriot_analysis.html
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>col sanders wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>My concerns are that while I don't
necessarily fear anything
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>from
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>current administration, weakening
the Bill of Rights for
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>future
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>administrations is quite
dangerous, if for example we got
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>another
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Clinton type in office, imagine
the danger to those of  us
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>that
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>are
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>not
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>secularly mainstream.  The USA
Patriot act is bad, ignoring
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>due
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>process
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>is bad, the DMCA is bad.   I am
still hoping they will have
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>the
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>balls to
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>reverse the bad law the first Bush
signed regarding "assault
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>weapons".
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>They also need to reopen the
streets in DC, the great Coward
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>(Clinton)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>should be the last coward, let DC
return to pre-Clinton
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>normalcy.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Regarding the need to fight a war,
let me ask you this, do you
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>really
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>believe that the US can do
ANYTHING that will met by the
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>radical
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>muslim/arab terrorist groups
backing off?  Is that even
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>possible
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>at
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>this
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>point?  I don't believe so... 
Maybe you do...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Cherokee wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Agreed, people don't HAVE to
be searched, it is voluntary
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>(only
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>compulsory if you wish to fly
on an airliner).
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>I don't think it's a foregone
conclusion that we need to
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>fight
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>war,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>though it probably will come to that.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>I don't see why you are
frightened by the President's "recent
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>record on
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>liberty".  What are you
afraid of (specifically)?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>--- col sanders
 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>We can get into a
discussion of how it all started when the
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>great
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Communist FDR blackmailed
the supreme court to misinterpret
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Commerce
> >>>>>>>>>>>Clause, and how that led
to the regulation of EVERYTHING
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>including
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>airlines and the great
loss of freedoms we enjoy today...
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>But
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>why
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>over-complicate things. 
The airlines are private industry.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>They
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>are
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>regulated, as is
EVERYTHING these days.  Americans are
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>STUPID
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>and
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>need
> >>>>>>>>>>>to be protected from
themselves (not my opinion, the opinion
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>of
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>thsoe
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>in
> >>>>>>>>>>>power).  People don't
*have to be searched* they can ride
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>amtrak
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>if
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>they
> >>>>>>>>>>>object so much (for
foreigners, thats the train).  Anyway,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>let
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>not
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>confuse things, do we need
to fight a war in the middle
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>east,
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>probably.
> >>>>>>>>>>>Is the Bush Admin's recent
record on liberty frightening,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>yes.
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Are
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>>>>>two related, no.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Cherokee wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>That is
oversimplified.  It is not the airlines mandating
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>the
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>searches.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>In fact, the airlines
are no longer able to employ their
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>own
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>security
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>personnel.  The
Transportation Security Administration
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>(TSA)
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>is
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>new
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>government agency
handling airport security, and we DO in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>fact
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>have
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>less freedom when
flying than we used to.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Even so, I say big
deal. They are working to protect planes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>and
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>passengers from
terrorism. They aren't digging through your
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>luggage
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>to
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>try to find out if you
cheated on your taxes.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>--- col sanders
 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Being able to lock
your bags on an airplan has nothing to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>do
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>with
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>freedom.  Airlines
are a private company, and as such they
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>have
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>right to inspect
their customers on their private
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>property.
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>So your saying
that ONE SOUL ACT by non-Americans is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>enough
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>some of the
freedom of Americans..
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Does this mean
that "IF" these attacks continue that more
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>freedom
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>will be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>lost ..
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Valid Point of View ..
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original
Message -----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>From:
"sloppy" 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>To:

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent:
Saturday, January 11, 2003 11:42 PM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject:
[twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>We
lost that freedom because a group of "men" took it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>upon
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>themselves
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>to abuse the
system to achieve their goal of killing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>American
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>civilians.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>That's
not the point either ..
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Talk
about freedom .. what happened to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>the
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>freedom
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>locking your bags ..
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>When
you fly now bags stay unlocked ..
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Killing
someone doesnt "Give" freedom
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>either
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>you just
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>out
and said something that's just way
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>out
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> >>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-----
Original Message -----
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>From:
"Sting" 
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To:

>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent:
Saturday, January 11, 2003 10:11 PM
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject:
[twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> SOMEONE HAS TO PAY FOR YOUR
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>FREEDOM!!
> >>
> >>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> BECAUSE IT"S NOT FREE !!!
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Sting
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> From: "<>"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> To: 
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>07:27
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>Military
> >>
> >>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > I dont think that's his point
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > When it comes down to it you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>have
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
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>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > just because it's the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>
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>
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>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > ----- Original Message -----
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > From: "pagan"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>
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> > Sent: Saturday, January 11,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>
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