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echo: rberrypi
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from: JAN PANTELTJE
date: 2018-12-12 15:49:00
subject: Re: My DVB-T and DVB sat

Martin Gregorie
>It may or may not have had in-cockpit controls - that hasn't come to
>light yet. Whats we know about this crash so far is that:
>
>- the autotrim system was not mentioned in the manuals for this 373
>  version and it was the first 737 to have this feature.
>
>- the pilots had received no training about it at all and so did not know
>  how it worked or how to disable it: a direct result from the lack of
>  documentation.
>
>- 737 autotrim has a major bug: it gets confused if the dual AOA sensors
>  disagree. In this case one had failed so of course they disagreed.
>
>- the crew for the previous flight had a less serious occurrence of the
>  same problem, which they overcame, but didn't tell anybody about it.

Same problem, no understanding of the system you use.


>> We are moving towards a situation where artificial neural nets are going
>> to run everything, in the medical world those already make diagnoses,
>> in traffic those steer cars, in the military those are in autonomous
>> weapons. Nobody can pull the plug so to speak [1].
>>
>And equally damning, nobody understands how a neural net actually
>recognises the situation/image/sound/whatever and worse still, there is
>not the slightest possibility that a neural net will ever be able to
>explain why it made a decision.

This is being addressed:
 https://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/neural-networks-explain-themselves/
Discussion:

https://www.researchgate.net/post/An_artificial_neural_network_that_explains_it
s_output

Google has a lot on that.




>Please don't call these things AI - they are no more AI than the cascaded
>decision tables (that fuelled the early '80s AI bubble) were. They are
>*not* any form of AI - merely trainable pattern recognition systems.

 Maybe so are we, and occasionally we find a new pattern...


>In my book it should be forbidden to call anything an AI unless it can
>output an understandable report showing how it came to make a decision
>and act on it.

Not many people can even do that, they make 'gut' decisions.

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