On (22 Dec 05) LEE LOFASO wrote to GEORGE POPE...
 LL> GP>Look at the NAME of the movement, that's all the CLUE you need:
 LL> ZIONist
 LL> GP>-- as in MOUNT ZION (as in IN ISRAEL!))
 LL>
 LL> Religious propaganda is not historical fact.

The historical fact is that religious zealotry(focused on Mount Zion)
initiated the whole movement. . .

 LL> Modern arhaeologists agree that Egyptians and Canaanites inhabited
 LL> Palestine from the earliest recorded days of history, 3000 B.C. to

it wasn't "Palestine" until after the Romans stole it from the Jews and
renamed it after Israel's old enemies, the Philistines. . .

 LL> 1700 B.C.  The Egyptians and Canaanites were followed by the other
 LL> occupiers, such as the Hyksos, Hittites, and Philistines.  It's
 LL> funny that the Hebrew period of rule came LATER, starting only in
 LL> 1020 B.C. and lasting until 587 B.C.  Then Palestine was overrun

There's archaelogic evidence putting the Hebrews there ca. 3000BCE

 LL> by the Assyrians, Babylonians, Greeks, Egyptians, and Syrians.
 LL> Then came the Hebrew Maccabeans, who held partial rule in 164 B.C.
 LL> A century later, in 63 B.C., the Roman Empire conquered Palestine,
 LL> including Jerusalem, and destroyed the Jews' beloved Second Temple
 LL> in 70 A.D., scattering the remaining Jews to the winds.
 LL>
 LL> IOW, the Jews only controlled Palestine for about 600 years of the
 LL> past 5000 years of Palestine's recorded history.  Hardly a claim of
 LL> legitimate ownership.  Especially since the Canaanites, Egyptians,
 LL> Muslims, or Romans controlled Palestine for a much longer period
 LL> of time.

I wasn't talking "controlled", I was talking "maintained a
presence"

 LL> The Jews never controlled any part of Palestine during the past 2000
 LL> years, except for the period 1948 to present.  IOW, less than 60
 LL> years.

I didn't say "controlled"; the Arabs didn't "control"
it either -- and
also did not maintain permanent habitations there, unlike the Jews, who,
although lacking international recognition, considered it "home"

 LL> born in Palestine.  So what you are saying, or suggesting, is that
 LL> a handful of "wandering Jews" created the state of Israel, intended
 LL> to be for Jews only.

Since when did I say that? Israel has never, since 1948 been "Jews only"
-- it's a DEMOACRACY (look that up!) the only one in the Middle East,
ever!

Because I care,
<+]::-{)}  (Cyberpope(the Bishop of ROM!))


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