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from: sloppy
date: 2003-01-14 00:13:18
subject: Re: OT Military

Hehe, I'm a single white male between the age of 18-45, I'm the
most descriminated person in the world.
 
 
I am going to depart from a primary email post rule and reply to
the first post in a thread that I consider ill informed (I am being
polite). 
> 
>I fly/drive all over this ball (planet).
Bloody nuisance by and large. Great fun and interesting for the first 20
years or so. 
> 
>The "911" thing and the subsequent
hysteria was idiotic at the Airports. The "professional"
screeners repeatedly stopped me, a 50 odd year old freckled Irish male and
searched my baggage by hand; next best bet were Black females older than I,
for a search. 
> 
>Obvious candidates for "round up the
usual suspects" walked through, but they have to have a quota; search
the blacks and whites first. 
> 
>Its a great idea. 
> 
>Blacks and whites are well known for their
adherence to terrorism, so check them first. Dont check any Arab ever,
especially if there is an 80 year old black or white Lady available to even
up the statistics for CNN . 
> 
> 
> 
> >From a message by Cherokee about
Re: OT Military: 
> > That is oversimplified. It is not
the airlines mandating the searches. 
> In fact, the airlines are no longer able to
employ their own security 
>personnel. The Transportation Security
Administration (TSA) is the new 
>government agency handling airport security,
and we DO in fact have 
>less freedom when flying than we used to. 
> 
>Even so, I say big deal. They are working to
protect planes and 
>passengers from terrorism. They aren't
digging through your luggage to 
>try to find out if you cheated on your taxes. 
> 
>--- col sanders wrote: 
> > 
> > Being able to lock your bags on an
airplan has nothing to do with 
> > freedom. Airlines are a private
company, and as such they have the 
> > right to inspect their customers
on their private property. 
> > 
> > <> wrote: 
> > 
> > >So your saying that ONE
SOUL ACT by non-Americans is enough to take 
> > away 
> > >some of the freedom of Americans.. 
> > >Does this mean that
"IF" these attacks continue that more freedom 
> > will be 
> > >lost .. 
> > >Valid Point of View .. 
> > > 
> > >----- Original Message ----- 
> > >From: "sloppy"

> > >To: 
> > >Sent: Saturday, January
11, 2003 11:42 PM 
> > >Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re:
OT Military 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>

> > >>
 
> > >>
We lost that freedom because a group of "men" took it upon 
> > themselves 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >to abuse the system to
achieve their goal of killing American 
> > civilians.

> > > 
> > > 
> > >>
> 
> > >>
>That's not the point either .. 
> > >>
>Talk about freedom .. what happened to the freedom 
> > of 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >locking your bags .. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>
>When you fly now bags stay unlocked .. 
> > >>
>Killing someone doesnt "Give"
freedom either .. so 
> > you just 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >completely came 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>
>out and said something that's just way out there .. 
> > >>
> 
> > >>
>----- Original Message ----- 
> > >>
>From: "Sting" 
> > >>
>To: 
> > >>
>Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 10:11 PM 
> > >>
>Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military 
> > >>
> 
> > >>
> 
> > >>
> > 
> > >>
> > SOMEONE HAS TO PAY FOR YOUR FREEDOM!! 
> > >>
> > BECAUSE IT"S NOT FREE !!! 
> > >>
> > Sting 
> > >>
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >>
> > From: "<>" 
> > 
> > >>
> > To: 
> > >>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 07:27 
> > >>
> > Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military 
> > >>
> > 
> > >>
> > 
> > >>
> > > 
> > >>
> > > I dont think that's his point 
> > >>
> > > When it comes down to it
you have to be 
> > able to 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >handle killing someone 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>
> > else 
> > >>
> > > just because it's the
political thing to 
> > do .. 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >If you cant handle that 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>
> > Idea 
> > >>
> > > then you shouldnt be in
the military 
> > (Regardless 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >of position) 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>
> > > 
> > >>
> > > my .02 
> > >>
> > > 
> > >>
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >>
> > > From: "pagan"

> > >>
> > > To: 
> > >>
> > > Sent: Saturday, January
11, 2003 12:14 PM 
> > >>
> > > Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re:
OT Military 
> > >>
> > > 
> > >>
> > > 
> > >>
> > > > 
> > >>
> > > > You would be
surprized to know that 
> > the 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >overwhelming majority of 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>
>service 
> > >>
> > > men and women never fire
a shot outside 
> > of basic 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >training or a firing 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>
> > range. 
> > >>
> > > In fact, there are more
opportunities to 
> > save 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >lives or make living 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>
> > > conditions more habitable
than to take 
> > them. 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >Yes, even in an all out war 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>
> > > situation. 
> > >>
> > > > 
> > >>
> > > > Pagan 
> > >>
> > > > 
> > >>
> > > > 
> > >>
> > > > >From a
message by prestone about 
> > Re: OT 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >Military: 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>
> > > > > as long
as you don't have a 
> > problem 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >killing your fellow human 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>
>beings, 
> > >>
> > go 
> > >>
> > > for it. 
> > >>
> > > > > 
> > >>
> > > > >
>From a message by sloppy 
> > about OT 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >Military: 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>
> > > > >
> With an anticipated 
> > graduation 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >from college in December, I've 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>
>been 
> > >>
> > > pondering what to do from
this point on 
> > in life. 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >I recently hit upon 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>
>the 
> > >>
> > > idea of the military, was
wondering if 
> > people 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >could offer input, horror 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>
> > > stories, advice,
warnings, etc. Anything 
> > would 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >be appreciated. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>
> > > > > 
> > >>
> > > > > 
> > >>
> > > > 
> > >>
> > > > 
> > >>
> > > > 
> > >>
> > > 
> > >>
> > 
> > >>



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