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echo: moscow_oklahoma
to: Sergey Serebryakov
from: Bo Simonsen
date: 2003-10-21 14:21:12
subject: Iron cirtain

[How defficult/easy it's to get to russia]

 BS>> Well as a european citizen, I don't guess I need a visum to go to
 BS>> any of other European countries..
 SS>> You needn't ...but CIS citizens need.
 BS> CIS citizens is?

 SS> Are.

That's right.

 SS> CIS (commonwelsh of independent states) exUSSR countris 
 SS> except all beltic and some asian countris. CIS citizens 
 SS> are: russians, belarusians, ukrainian, kazakhstans, 
 SS> georgian(?) ...did i lost anything ?

Don't bet so :-)

Thanks for the explaination :)

 SS>> well... this summer my friend (Czech citizen) visit
 SS>> Moscow. The procedure was standart: her Moscow friend
 SS>> visit OVIR (foreign police) and made invitation, send
 SS>> it to Prague. Intitation + application fee + 1 week of
 SS>> waiting... ang she got a visa. %-)

 BS> Hmm, okay! That's sounds like a defficult procedure..

 SS> Difficult? well. it may take lot of time, but in 
 SS> 99.9999% you obtain a visa.
 SS> But,( for example) in US embassi in 80% you will obtain deny  %(

Yes okay, I meant so.. After the 11th of September did it get very
defficult to obtain a US VISUM. I visited a friend which was about to leave
Denmark for USA. I saw the application, it asked him about "Are you in
familiy with teorrists", "Are you a scientist?", etc..

 BS> Was it just because she was a czech citizen?

 SS> I think no. (Im'not russian citizen, im citizen of Belarus, but our 
 SS> countries have almost equal visas policy). My classmate 
 SS> is US cititzen now, and a made invitation for him. I 
 SS> visit OVIR, filled in an apptication form, apply two my 
 SS> photo, my passport, and pay application fee ( about 8 
 SS> USD). After 4 week, invitation was ready, it was sent 
 SS> into US, my classmate visit belarussian embassy, filled 
 SS> application form, apply 2 his photo, passport, and my 
 SS> invitation, pay application fee (40 USD). After 1 week 
 SS> he visit embassy again, and take passport bask with a 
 SS> visa.

Oh so they will earn money on it too :(

 SS> Year ago , i decied visit Czech. I ask my friend to 
 SS> send me an invitation. She visit foreign police.... She 
 SS> got deny, because she did not have 3000USD on her bank 
 SS> account - it was necessaty require for invitation :(

That's mad! I do niether have so many money..

 SS> Feel the diffitince ?

Indeed!

Regards,
Bo


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