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to: Robert G Lewis
from: Adam Flinton
date: 2003-03-05 19:37:08
subject: Re: Freedom of Speech?

From: "Adam Flinton" 

Can you ban black people from your mall then?

Adam

"Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
news:3e664bed$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> I'm not defending this action but it probably is  legal. A Mall is private
> property and by refusing to leave he could be subject to trespassing laws.
> Personally if I lived close I think I'd start visiting the mall daily,
with
> friends, wearing the T Shirts or some other sign.
>
> Which seems to be going on
> http://www.msnbc.com/local/WNYT/M276307.asp?0cv=NB10
>
>        A Macy's employee saw the men in the food court and alerted
security.
>
>
> I think I'd spend a LOT of time in Macy's
>
> Bob Lewis
>
>
> "Richard Gauszka" 
wrote in message
> news:3e66476b{at}w3.nls.net...
> > If all the facts in this story are true we have a serious problem with
> > personal freedom in this country.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > -------
> > Man arrested for 'peace' T-shirt
> >
> > Tuesday, March 4, 2003 Posted: 9:52 PM EST (0252 GMT)
> >
> > NEW YORK (Reuters) -- A lawyer was arrested late Monday and charged with
> > trespassing at a public mall in the state of New York after refusing to
> take
> > off a T-shirt advocating peace that he had just purchased at the mall.
> >
> > According to the criminal complaint filed Monday, Stephen Downs was
> wearing
> > a T-shirt bearing the words "Give Peace A Chance" that
he had just
> purchased
> > from a vendor inside the Crossgates Mall in Guilderland, New York, near
> > Albany.
> >
> > "I was in the food court with my son when I was confronted by two
security
> > guards and ordered to either take off the T-shirt or leave the mall,"
said
> > Downs.
> >
> > When Downs refused the security officers' orders, police from the town
of
> > Guilderland were called and he was arrested and taken away in handcuffs,
> > charged with trespassing "in that he knowingly enter(ed) or remain(ed)
> > unlawfully upon premises," the complaint read.
> >
> > Downs said police tried to convince him he was wrong in his actions by
> > refusing to remove the T-shirt because the mall "was like a private
house
> > and that I was acting poorly.
> >
> > "I told them the analogy was not good and I was then hauled
off to night
> > court where I was arraigned after pleading not guilty and released on my
> own
> > recognizance," Downs told Reuters in a telephone interview.
> >
> > Downs is the director of the Albany Office of the state Commission on
> > Judicial Conduct, which investigates complaints of misconduct against
> judges
> > and can admonish, censure or remove judges found to have engaged in
> > misconduct.
> >
> > Calls to the Guilderland police and district attorney, Anthony Cardona
and
> > to officials at the mall were not returned for comment.
> >
> > Downs is due back in court for a hearing on March 17.
> >
> > He could face up to a year in prison if convicted.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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