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date: 2014-10-31 13:14:00
subject: Re: Question about sharin

On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 18:43:36 +0000 (UTC), Dustin 
wrote:

>"p-0''0-h the cat (ES)"  wrote in
>news:e0l75ahrh5qi5d16rejscil98c90i3cgr3@4ax.com: 
>
>> On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 18:09:37 +0000 (UTC), Dustin
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>>"p-0''0-h the cat (ES)"  wrote
>>>in news:k7j75apismgkvsshouf2n1b90m1ispjok6@4ax.com: 
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 16:48:29 +0000 (UTC), Dustin
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>You're confused. Have you actually tried using wireshark on a
>>>>>LAN? The only way you can 'spy' on other computers on the LAN's
>>>>>traffic is if their using a hub. If they're tied into a switch,
>>>>>you don't have access to see the other comms. You'll only see
>>>>>what's coming/going from the machine your running wireshark on.
>>>> 
>>>> Complete bollocks. Ignore.
>>>
>>>Nope..The only exception is wireless traffic OR an enterprise
>>>level switch that's been configured to let users do stupid things
>>>with it: ie, repeat mode, packet sniffing LAN enabled, etc. 
>> 
>> Complete bollocks. Most SOHO managed switches will do port
>> mirroring nowadays, its been around since the year dot. My one
>> here will do by port or VLAN. 
>
>Are you using a residential device? I'm thinking the gear you're 
>discussing isn't what virusguy is likely to be playing with.

Cisco Small Business but a TP-Link at half the price will do that.

>>>Otherwise if it's 
>>>a switch and not a hub, you will not see the traffic on the
>>>computers using ports 1,2,3, or 4 hardlined into it. H0h0h0.
>> 
>> Dustin, I've used port mirroring with Wireshark for donkey's
>> years. It's very useful. 
>
>I already covered this previously, nice try though. 

Well if you knew it already why the inaccurate initial post.

>>>See that paragraph? (not switch). If you want to monitor ALL of
>>>the LANS activity, you must be tied into a hub; a nice dumb switch
>>>that repeats everybodies traffic on all of it's ports, no privacy,
>>>no dedication there. Switches don't do that repeating (generally 
>>>speaking, you can get expensive ones that will, but it's not by 
>>>default) So you won't be spying on port1,2,3 if your wired to port
>>>4. If it's a hub oth, you can!
>>>
>>>Ignore pooh; he writes from his anus. He's being intentionally
>>>vague in his complete bollocks reply. The above information is how
>>>you spy on LANs. 
>> 
>> My anus doesn't talk bollocks. You haven't needed an *Enterprise*
>> level switch to do this for ages.
>
>You're an idiot. 

Another luser bites the dust.

>List standard and commonly used residential equipment thats a switch 
>that will let you spy on the other machines hardwired into it, by 
>default out of the box. I'll wait.

Why does it have to be 'default out of the box' I'm just pointing out
that with the right equipment [even cheap equipment a new managed switch
£50 on Amazon bit ####ty of course but it'll probably work, secondhand
on Ebay £20 for something decent] if you plug your equipment into
someone else's switch they *CAN* monitor your traffic.

So you were wrong :) Still it'll give you something to spin and write
word walls about until your departure from this life. I'll look forward
to skimming them. It's a gas.

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