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From: "Frank Haber"
(Sent to m.'s email in error)
It seems all the Debian forks based on Linus' 2.6 kernel have been flailing
around with this since early ***20005***. Very strange. Since it's hard
to find what's below, I'm quoting it, for what it's worth. And most
puzzling is the lack of hard hangs and corrupt CMOS on anything but Dells.
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[8] What Intel has to say.
Found by Googling for "8208CA", and then reading Google's
"cached" copy. (This stuff isn't easy to find - the original
has evidently been taken down:
sunsite.rediris.es/sites/download.intel.nl/
design/chipsets/specupdt/290739.htm
^^ Estonia??)
This document may or may not explain 2.8.1 real-time clock
problem. But for those of you with a hardware manufacturing
background, can you IMAGINE shipping a piece of equipment with
design flaws such as these and requiring BIOS manufacturers
to develop and test band-aids for them? And then requiring OS
developers to do the same work over again?
Software timers in BIOS? In the KERNEL?? Arrrgh.
A chip with an arbitration deadlock which can lock up a bus,
which they're not going to fix?
And this stuff is used in ... avionics! (At least by one
manufacturer. Not certified for the airlines, fortunately.)
Quotes from Intel's document follow.
"Problem:
Under certain conditions, a CPU generated I/O read to RTC
(Real Time Clock) registers 0-9 may return an incorrect
value. The issue occurs on the read path from the RTC
registers and the RTC value in the registers is not impacted.
Should the certain conditions occur, one or more of the bits
read from the RTC registers may be incorrect. The issue has
only been found using a synthetic test and has not been seen
using commercially available software. [ <= N.B. ]
"Implication:
An operating system or software applications which
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