I'm not serious about executing poor Mexican migrant farm workers.  I'm
simply trying to illustrate that it is nearly impossible to tell the
difference between an Iranian medical student and an Islamic
fundamentalist radical bent on destroying the western org{at}twgs.org> wrote:
>  
>
>>Not every illegal immigrant is here to deny s question to "Who
do you think lived in Israel
before 1917?"

The point is, our support for Israel is not justified as long as Israel
continues to expand into more Palestinian territory and kill innocents.



--- col sanders  wrote:
> 
> I quote
> 
> "Who do you think lived in Israel before 1948? It
> 
> > wasn't
> 
> >>>> >>>the Jews. "
> >>>
> Read what I sent you, Jews began arriving en masse in the area now 
> camled Israel in 1917.
> 
> Col Sanders
> 
> 
> Cherokee wrote:
> 
> >It am!agr me how utterly unable you are to answer a simple question.
> >
> >Which fact did I state that is incorrect?
> >
> > 
> >
> >--- col sanders  wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Ok dude, real quick, use this, even though its the UN it looks to
> be 
> >>pretty accurate...  (Usually I find the UN to be WAY liberal)  It
> >>will 
> >>show you where your facts are wrong and maybe give the two of you
> >>some 
> >>facts to agree upon so you can have an intelligent conversation...
> >>
> >>http://www.un.org/Depts/dpa/ngo/history.html
> >>
> >>Cherokee wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>No sticking your toes in Sanders, either jump in our stay the heck
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>out.
> >>    
> >>
> >>>What facts did I getr wrong?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>--- col sanders  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>I would jump in but I don' have time today ,
both of you can
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>rest 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>assures the answer is somewhere between the two of
you.  You both
> >>>>seem 
> >>>>to represent opposite sides but are unwilling to agree on the
> >>>>*facts*. 
> >>>>If you cannot do that much, you will never have agreement.
> >>>>
> >>>>Col Sanders
> >>>>
> >>>>Cherokee wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>--- sloppy  wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Israeli abuse of Palestinans? Israeli men
aren't strapping
> >>>>>>       
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>>>themselves
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>>  
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>       
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>full of explosives and shooting their way into Palestinan
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>settlements.
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>No, but Israeli soldiers have killed hundreds of innocent
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>Palestinians,
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>in addition to lots of guilty ones. The Israeli
Army occupies
> >>>>>Palestinian villages and refuge camps, and
supports colonization
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>(heh,
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>had to stick a TW term in here) of land that does
not rightfully
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>belong
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>to Israel.  Who do you think lived in Israel
before 1948?  It
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>wasn't
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>the Jews. 
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>We should stand by Israel because they have
been dealing with
> >>>>>>  
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>       
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>terrorist attacks for years, and maybe, just maybe
if the Arab
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>world
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>(besides Egypt and Jordan) would accept the right
of Israel to
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>exist,
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>steps could be made to end the violence.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Israel's policies towards the Arabs have brought on the
> terrorist
> >>>>>attacks, just as US policy in the Middle East
brought on Sep 11.
> 
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>I'm
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>not saying terrorism is justified, far from it.  But just
> because
> >>>>>someone is attacked by a terrorist does not mean
they are right
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>and
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>that we should support their policies. What do you
think would
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>make
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>the
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>rest of the Arab world recognize Israel's right to
exist?  And
> why
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>do
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>you think the Israelis should have the right to
exist but the
> >>>>>Palestinians should not?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I personally believe however that there can
never be peace in
> the
> >>>>>>  
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>       
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>Middle East until "Palestinans" are
gone. And why are they
> called
> >>>>>Palestinans by everyone? They are just Arabs that
happen to be
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>living
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>in that region of the Middle East.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>So your answer is genocide of the Palestinian
people?  They are
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>called
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>Palestinians because they live in Palestine, just
like we are
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>called
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>Americans because we live in America. According to
your logic,
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>most
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>Americans are just Europeans that happen to be living in
> America. 
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>We
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>should just be called Europeans, and whoever is
strong enough to
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>push
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>us around and occupy our territory is justified in doing so.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >
> >
> >  
> >

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