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From: gfretwell@aol.com
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Subject: Re: Since we're talking about Lenovo Thinkpads......
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 00:49:05 -0500
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On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 05:07:07 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
 wrote:

>In message , 
>gfretwell@aol.com writes:
>>On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:22:59 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>In message ,
>>>gfretwell@aol.com writes:
>[]
>>>>on it. In real life MS doesn't really seem to care about XP anymore
>>>>anyway. They will authenticate anything with a valid number.
>>>>Mine all say "genuine microsoft" or words to that effect.
>>>
>>>One does wonder why they continue to do that.
>>
>>I suspect maintaining the old server that tried to track hardware
>>changes and then had people sitting by the phone to reconcile the
>>differences was not worth it for a software package they were not
>
>Oh, sure; I meant, I'm not sure why they're continuing to authenticate 
>at all.
>
>>selling anymore. They certainly do not want to say they will breach
>>the EULA contract and abandon their customers after a while.
>
>Why not though? Obviously, I'm happy that they _are_ continuing to 
>authenticate, just wondering why.

I think they believe there is no future in the reputation you get from
being the richest guy in the world and breaching a contract on a
product they sold in good faith. 
There is no expiration date in the Eula we all signed. I suspect that
the cost of simply authenticating anything with a valid COA number is
preferable to promoting piracy tools.
There is no shortage of people who have cracked the authentification
When I thought that server was finally pulled down it took about a
minute on google to find a hack. Before I actually tried one, I
remembered I had not loaded SP3. When I did it sailed through.

>>That is why they want to migrate to the subscription model with a hard
>>drop dead date if you don't keep paying, getting away from a lifetime
>>sale.
>
>Indeed. I don't think even W10 has got to that yet, but the 
>can't-block-updates (for most people with moderate or low computer 
>skills, anyway) is certainly moving towards that.

10 seems to clearly be priming that market to subscription services,
at least that is what I hear. I am just starting to dabble with 7,
mostly because there are streaming services that are getting clunky or
don't work at all with XP. My only 7 machine is hooked to the TV.
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