Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the original UN mandate allowing the
existence of the Zionist state known as Israel today also called for the
establishment of "Old Jerusalem" as an International Free State
similar to the Vatican City. To this day that has not happened as 3
religions "of the book" continue to battle over some of the
places they consider Holy and central to their religions. I have been
saying for many years that "Old Jerusalem" should have a
tripartite mayorality consisting of Muslim, Christian and Jewish
representatives...then hire a police force from Sikhs and Gurkahas to
ensure that local law enforcement officials have no interest in the
internal religious feuds!

>From a message by Zoobar about Re: OT Military:
> Some History. 
 > 
 > Suicide bombing civilians is a retarded and cowardly way of fighting
a war but it doesn't discount the fact that the Palestinians literally had
their land (in modern times) stolen from them. Before 1947, 1/3 of
Palestinians were Jewish, 2/3's were Arab. Their goal was the creation of a
unified Palestinian nation of all faiths. The UN, in guilt over their
ignorance of the Holocaust, granted the Jews their own state of Israel,
which in turn with the new juridictional powers of self-destiny afforded a
nation, and Israeli policy of Never Again, tossed the Arabs from their
homeland and built their walls. God did not give that land to the Jews.    
 > 
 > From: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/news/nation-
world/crisis/theregion/palisraeli.html
 > 
 > HOLY LAND
 > The battle over Israel — long known as Palestine — dates back
centuries. Jews, Arabs and Christians all consider parts of it sacred. Jews
were dispelled from Palestine by the Romans 2,000 years ago, but never gave
up their claim to it. Efforts to restore a Jewish state began in the late
1800s, as anti-Semitic pogroms swept Eastern Europe. Great Britain, which
ruled the region, promised Jews a "national homeland" in
Palestine in exchange for their support in World War I. 
 > 
 > THE STATE OF ISRAEL
 > During World War II, as 6 million Jews died in the Holocaust,
survivors sought refuge in Palestine. In 1947, the U.N. partitioned it into
separate Jewish and Palestinian states with an international enclave around
Jerusalem. Arab leaders rejected the division, demanding a united
Palestine. Jews in 1947 founded Israel, immediately recognized by the U.S.
and U.S.S.R. Hundreds of thousands of Arabs were displaced, and neighboring
Arabs countries launched the first of many wars. In 1967, Israel doubled
its territory when it captured the Golan Heights from Syria, the West Bank
and East Jerusalem from Jordan, and the Sinai Peninsula and Gaza Strip from
Egypt in the Six-Day War. More Palestinians fled or were brought under
Israeli rule. 
 > 
 > A UNITED PALESTINIAN VOICE
 > In 1969, Yassar Arafat became head of the Palestine Liberation
Organization,  or PLO. In a 1974 speech to the U.N., he called for a united
Palestine "where Christian, Jew and Muslim live in justice, quality
and fraternity." 
 > 
 > MUTUAL VIOLENCE, FAILED PEACE
 > Through the 1970s, the Palestinians formed "Black
September" to carry out revenge assassinations and hijackings.
Israelis formed "Wrath of God" to assassinate Palestinian
leaders. Egypt and Syria launched battles to regain lost territory but were
rebuffed, in part because of a massive airlift of U.S. arms to Israel. A
series of peace talks, beginning with the 1978 Camp David accords between
Egypt and Israel, have brought some political progress, but no end to the
violence. 
 > 
 > U.S. INVOLVEMENT
 > The U.S. gives Israel about $3 billion in aid each year. While the
U.S. remains a staunch supporter of Israel, there has been increasing
pressure to recognize some form of a Palestinian state. 
 > 
 > AT ISSUE TODAY
 > Palestinians demand that Israel withdraw from the West Bank, Gaza
Strip and East Jerusalem, and dismantle 144 Jewish settlements in those
areas. Israel says it will not withdraw to the 1967 borders, but has
offered to relinquish land in West Bank and Gaza. Palestinians want their
own nation, with a capital in East Jerusalem, including control of the Old
City and its holy shrines. Israel calls Jerusalem its eternal and undivided
capital, but says it would give up outlying Arab neighborhoods.
Palestinians demand that Israel recognize the right of Palestinian refugees
and descendants to return to homes in what is now Israel. Israel says it
will not recognize the right of return, but will allow a limited number of
refugees to settle in Israel on humanitarian grounds.
 > 
 > 
 > >From a message by Sting about Re: OT Military:
 > > GOD gave that land to Israel do you want to over rule HIM.
 > ----- Original Message ----- 
 > From: "Cherokee" 
 > To: 
 > Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 12:41
 > Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military
 > 
 > 
 > > 
 > > I'm not suggesting that Israel has no right to defend itself from
 > > suicide bombers and the like.  But Israel continues to allow
 > > settlements in territory that it occupied in 1967. Nearly everyone
 > > agrees that the only solution to the problem is a Palestinian state,
 > > but Israel is allowing it's citizens to dig in on the land which a
 > > Palestinian state must occupy.
 > > 
 > > Concerning Middle East dictators and the Saudis, I agree completely.  
 > > 
 > > I also agree abortion is wrong and should be against the law.
 > > A fetal heartbeat can be detected by about 4 weeks gestation, and 100%
 > > of all surgical abortions take place after this point.  However, a very
 > > high percentage of women using "abortion pills" do so
between 2-4 weeks
 > > (0-2 weeks after they have missed their period), so you'd really have
 > > to define life as the point of conception to stop all of those. I think
 > > life begins at conception, but I'm not the guy who gets to define what
 > > life is.
 > > 
 > > 
 > > --- col sanders  wrote:
 > > > 
 > > > I completely disagree with you on Israel, if anything, we have been 
 > > > holding them back and stopping them from defeating those that want to
 > > > 
 > > > destroy them, we ought to let them go and do what they need to do,
 > > > even 
 > > > if its an ugly war.  As for US policy in the mideast, yes its been
 > > > bad, 
 > > > we ought not prop up dictators and support evil governments like the 
 > > > Saudi's and such.  As for the radical and our war, Iraq is not the
 > > > war 
 > > > that we have to conern ourselves with, it is just one battle.  It is 
 > > > what comes after Iraq that we should be focusing on.  Lastly the Bill
 > > > of 
 > > > Rights, I do hope you are right and the Courts will fix it.  I
 > > > generally 
 > > > like the Supreme Court lately, but remember, that court is still 
 > > > incapable of defending human life from those that want a convenient 
 > > > promiscuous lifestyle, so who knows, will have to see what they do. 
 > > > I 
 > > > think it would be novel though to have an administration that didn't 
 > > > even *try* to limit our rights.
 > > > 
 > > > Lastly, you like how I go from bottom to top?  Heh  I must be crazy!
 > > > 
 > > > Col Sanders
 > > > 
 > > > Cherokee wrote:
 > > > 
 > > > >The Bill of Rights hasn't been touched. It takes a Constitutional
 > > > >Amendment to do that.  If there is anything wrong with
the Patriot
 > > > Act,
 > > > >the courts will set it straight eventually.
 > > > >
 > > > >I don't think the Islamic fundamentalist radicals will
back off, but
 > > > >those are not the ones we are proposing to fight a war against. 
 > > > Sure
 > > > >it's all related, but the issue at hand is Saddam Hussein and his
 > > > WMD.
 > > > >
 > > > >I do believe that US policy in the Middle East is flawed and is
 > > > >responsible for the increase in anti-US sentiment worldwide.
 > > > >
 > > > >Until we stop blindly supporting Israel (and ignoring
Israeli abuse
 > > > of
 > > > >the Palestinians), Arabs and Muslims everywhere will continue to
 > > > hate
 > > > >us.
 > > > >
 > > > >
 > > > >
 > > > >--- col sanders  wrote:
 > > > >  
 > > > >
 > > > >>My concerns are that while I don't necessarily fear
anything from
 > > > the
 > > > >>
 > > > >>current administration, weakening the Bill of
Rights for future 
 > > > >>administrations is quite dangerous, if for example
we got another 
 > > > >>Clinton type in office, imagine the danger to those
of  us that are
 > > > >>not 
 > > > >>secularly mainstream.  The USA Patriot act is bad,
ignoring due
 > > > >>process 
 > > > >>is bad, the DMCA is bad.   I am still hoping they
will have the
 > > > balls
 > > > >>to 
 > > > >>reverse the bad law the first Bush signed regarding
"assault
 > > > >>weapons". 
 > > > >> They also need to reopen the streets in DC, the great Coward
 > > > >>(Clinton) 
 > > > >>should be the last coward, let DC return to
pre-Clinton normalcy.
 > > > >>
 > > > >>Regarding the need to fight a war, let me ask you
this, do you
 > > > really
 > > > >>
 > > > >>believe that the US can do ANYTHING that will met
by the radical 
 > > > >>muslim/arab terrorist groups backing off?  Is that
even possible at
 > > > >>this 
 > > > >>point?  I don't believe so...  Maybe you do...
 > > > >>
 > > > >>Cherokee wrote:
 > > > >>
 > > > >>    
 > > > >>
 > > > >>>Agreed, people don't HAVE to be searched, it is
voluntary (only
 > > > >>>compulsory if you wish to fly on an airliner). 
 > > > >>>
 > > > >>>I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that
we need to fight a
 > > > >>>      
 > > > >>>
 > > > >>war,
 > > > >>    
 > > > >>
 > > > >>>though it probably will come to that.
 > > > >>>
 > > > >>>I don't see why you are frightened by the
President's "recent
 > > > record
 > > > >>>      
 > > > >>>
 > > > >>on
 > > > >>    
 > > > >>
 > > > >>>liberty".  What are you afraid of (specifically)?
 > > > >>>
 > > > >>>
 > > > >>>
 > > > >>>--- col sanders  wrote:
 > > > >>> 
 > > > >>>
 > > > >>>      
 > > > >>>
 > > > >>>>We can get into a discussion of how it all
started when the great
 > > > 
 > > > >>>>Communist FDR blackmailed the supreme court
to misinterpret the
 > > > >>>>Commerce 
 > > > >>>>Clause, and how that led to the regulation
of EVERYTHING
 > > > including 
 > > > >>>>airlines and the great loss of freedoms we
enjoy today... But why
 > > > 
 > > > >>>>over-complicate things.  The airlines are
private industry.  They
 > > > >>>>        
 > > > >>>>
 > > > >>are
 > > > >>    
 > > > >>
 > > > >>>>regulated, as is EVERYTHING these days. 
Americans are STUPID and
 > > > >>>>need 
 > > > >>>>to be protected from themselves (not my
opinion, the opinion of
 > > > >>>>        
 > > > >>>>
 > > > >>thsoe
 > > > >>    
 > > > >>
 > > > >>>>in 
 > > > >>>>power).  People don't *have to be searched*
they can ride amtrak
 > > > if
 > > > >>>>they 
 > > > >>>>object so much (for foreigners, thats the
train).  Anyway, let
 > > > not 
 > > > >>>>confuse things, do we need to fight a war
in the middle east,
 > > > >>>>probably. 
 > > > >>>>Is the Bush Admin's recent record on
liberty frightening, yes. 
 > > > >>>>        
 > > > >>>>
 > > > >>Are
 > > > >>    
 > > > >>
 > > > >>>>the 
 > > > >>>>two related, no.  
 > > > >>>>
 > > > >>>>Cherokee wrote:
 > > > >>>>
 > > > >>>>   
 > > > >>>>
 > > > >>>>        
 > > > >>>>
 > > > >>>>>That is oversimplified.  It is not the
airlines mandating the
 > > > >>>>>     
 > > > >>>>>
 > > > >>>>>          
 > > > >>>>>
 > > > >>>>searches.
 > > > >>>>   
 > > > >>>>
 > > > >>>>        
 > > > >>>>
 > > > >>>>>In fact, the airlines are no longer
able to employ their own
 > > > >>>>>     
 > > > >>>>>
 > > > >>>>>          
 > > > >>>>>
 > > > >>>>security
 > > > >>>>   
 > > > >>>>
 > > > >>>>        
 > > > >>>>
 > > > >>>>>personnel.  The Transportation Security
Administration (TSA) is
 > > > >>>>>          
 > > > >>>>>
 > > > >>the
 > > > >>    
 > > > >>
 > > > >>>>>     
 > > > >>>>>
 > > > >>>>>          
 > > > >>>>>
 > > > >>>>new
 > > > >>>>   
 > > > >>>>
 > > > >>>>        
 > > > >>>>
 > > > >>>>>government agency handling airport
security, and we DO in fact
 > > > >>>>>          
 > > > >>>>>
 > > > >>have
 > > > >>    
 > > > >>
 > > > >>>>>less freedom when flying than we used to.
 > > > >>>>>
 > > > >>>>>Even so, I say big deal. They are
working to protect planes and
 > > > >>>>>passengers from terrorism. They aren't
digging through your
 > > > >>>>>          
 > > > >>>>>
 > > > >>luggage
 > > > >>    
 > > > >>
 > > > >>>>>     
 > > > >>>>>
 > > > >>>>>          
 > > > >>>>>
 > > > >>>>to
 > > > >>>>   
 > > > >>>>
 > > > >>>>        
 > > > >>>>
 > > > >>>>>try to find out if you cheated on your taxes.
 > > > >>>>>
 > > > >>>>>--- col sanders
 wrote:
 > > > >>>>>
 > > > >>>>>
 > > > >>>>>     
 > > > >>>>>
 > > > >>>>>          
 > > > >>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>Being able to lock your bags on an
airplan has nothing to do
 > > > with
 > > > >>>>>>            
 > > > >>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>freedom.  Airlines are a private
company, and as such they have
 > > > >>>>>>            
 > > > >>>>>>
 > > > >>the
 > > > >>    
 > > > >>
 > > > >>>>>>       
 > > > >>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>right to inspect their customers on
their private property.
 > > > >>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>> wrote:
 > > > >>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>  
 > > > >>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>       
 > > > >>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>            
 > > > >>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>So your saying that ONE SOUL
ACT by non-Americans is enough to
 > > > >>>>>>>         
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>              
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>take
 > > > >>>>   
 > > > >>>>
 > > > >>>>        
 > > > >>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>    
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>         
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>              
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>away
 > > > >>>>>>  
 > > > >>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>       
 > > > >>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>            
 > > > >>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>some of the freedom of Americans..
 > > > >>>>>>>Does this mean that
"IF" these attacks continue that more
 > > > >>>>>>>              
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>freedom
 > > > >>    
 > > > >>
 > > > >>>>>>>    
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>         
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>              
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>will be
 > > > >>>>>>  
 > > > >>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>       
 > > > >>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>            
 > > > >>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>lost ..
 > > > >>>>>>>Valid Point of View ..
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
 > > > >>>>>>>From: "sloppy"

 > > > >>>>>>>To: 
 > > > >>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 11:42 PM
 > > > >>>>>>>Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>    
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>         
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>              
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>>

 > > > >>>>>>>> 
 > > > >>>>>>>>We lost that
freedom because a group of "men" took it upon
 > > > >>>>>>>>      
 > > > >>>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>>           
 > > > >>>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>>                
 > > > >>>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>themselves
 > > > >>>>>>  
 > > > >>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>       
 > > > >>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>            
 > > > >>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>> 
 > > > >>>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>>      
 > > > >>>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>>           
 > > > >>>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>>                
 > > > >>>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>to abuse the system to achieve
their goal of killing American
 > > > >>>>>>>    
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>         
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>              
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>civilians.
 > > > >>>>>>  
 > > > >>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>       
 > > > >>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>            
 > > > >>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>    
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>         
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>              
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>>> 
 > > >
>>>>>>>>>That's not
the point either ..
 > > >
>>>>>>>>>Talk about
freedom .. what happened to the
 > > > >>>>>>>>                
 > > > >>>>>>>>
 > > > >>freedom
 > > > >>    
 > > > >>
 > > > >>>>>>>>      
 > > > >>>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>>           
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 > > > >>>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>>           
 > > > >>>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>>                
 > > > >>>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>locking your bags ..
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>    
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>         
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>              
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > >
>>>>>>>>>When you fly
now bags stay unlocked ..
 > > >
>>>>>>>>>Killing
someone doesnt "Give" freedom either
 > > > ..
 > > > >>>>>>>>                
 > > > >>>>>>>>
 > > > >>so
 > > > >>    
 > > > >>
 > > > >>>>>>>>      
 > > > >>>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>>           
 > > > >>>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>>                
 > > > >>>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>you just
 > > > >>>>>>  
 > > > >>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>       
 > > > >>>>>>
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 > > > >>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>> 
 > > > >>>>>>>>
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 > > > >>>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>completely came
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>    
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>         
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>              
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > >
>>>>>>>>>out and said
something that's just way out
 > > > there
 > > > >>>>>>>>           
 > > > >>>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>>                
 > > > >>>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>..
 > > > >>>>   
 > > > >>>>
 > > > >>>>        
 > > > >>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>>>
 > > >
>>>>>>>>>-----
Original Message -----
 > > >
>>>>>>>>>From:
"Sting" 
 > > >
>>>>>>>>>To:

 > > >
>>>>>>>>>Sent:
Saturday, January 11, 2003 10:11 PM
 > > >
>>>>>>>>>Subject:
[twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military
 > > > >>>>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>>>
 > > >
>>>>>>>>> >
 > > >
>>>>>>>>> >
SOMEONE HAS TO PAY FOR YOUR FREEDOM!!
 > > >
>>>>>>>>> >
BECAUSE IT"S NOT FREE !!!
 > > >
>>>>>>>>> >
Sting
 > > >
>>>>>>>>> >
----- Original Message -----
 > > >
>>>>>>>>> >
From: "<>"
 > > > >>>>>>>>      
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 > > > >>>>>>>>
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 > > > >>>>>>>>
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 > > > >>>>>>
 > > >
>>>>>>>>> >
To: 
 > > >
>>>>>>>>> >
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 07:27
 > > >
>>>>>>>>> >
Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military
 > > >
>>>>>>>>> >
 > > >
>>>>>>>>> >
 > > >
>>>>>>>>> >
>
 > > >
>>>>>>>>> >
> I dont think that's his point
 > > >
>>>>>>>>> >
> When it comes down to it you have
 > > > to
 > > > >>>>>>>>                
 > > > >>>>>>>>
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 > > > >>    
 > > > >>
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 > > > >>>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>handle killing someone
 > > > >>>>>>>
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 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>              
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > >
>>>>>>>>> >
else
 > > >
>>>>>>>>> >
> just because it's the political
 > > > thing
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 > > > >>>>>>>>
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 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>
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 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>>>>              
 > > > >>>>>>>
 > > >
>>>>>>>>> >
Idea
 > > >
>>>>>>>>> >
> then you shouldnt be in the
 > > > military
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>>>>>>>>> >
>
 > > >
>>>>>>>>> >
> my .02
 > > >
>>>>>>>>> >
>
 > > >
>>>>>>>>> >
> ----- Original Message -----
 > > >
>>>>>>>>> >
> From: "pagan" 
 > > >
>>>>>>>>> >
> To: 
 > > >
>>>>>>>>> >
> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003
 > > > >>>>>>>>                
 > > > >>>>>>>>
 > > > >>12:14
 > > > >>    
 > > > >>
 > > > >>>>>>>>           
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 > > > >>>>>>>>
 > > > >>>>PM
 > > > >>>>   
 > > > >>>>
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 > > > >>>>
 > > >
>>>>>>>>> >
> Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT
 > > > Military
 > > >
>>>>>>>>> >
>
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>>>>>>>>> >
>
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> >
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>>>>>>>>> >
> > You would be surprized to know
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>>>>>>>>> >
> men and women never fire a shot
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