> > > What I loathe about Martha is that she thinks she's wonderful. 
> She thinks she's perfect. Not only that but she's sneering of 
> everyone on the planet who isn't as perfect as she thinks she is -
which, by 
> the look of it, is everyone.
> 
> > Do you think she really thinks that?
> 
Yes, I do. From the things she says, the body language, the way she says
things, the looks she gives people.

> Of course not.  She projects that persona because she's a walking
> commercial for her books, magazine, teevee show, KMartstuff, etc.  

The persona is toned down for public consumption because the real "Queen
of F** Everything" is smart enough to know that she can't have her
public adoration if she shows herself as she really is

> It's not like she knows all this stuff; she has a staff of 200 people
to 
> research recipes, household hints, gardening tips, etc. for her to
pass along 
> to her public.  

She doesn't pretend to know all that stuff. She's a lot smarter than
that. She knows very well no one could ever know everything about
everything. There's no way in the world she could have built an enormous
multi-million dollar empire, starting from being a housewife in her
kitchen, if she wasn't extra-ordinarily brilliant. You're missing the
point. It's her attitude that gets my back up.

> Personally, I think she's pretty hot for an old gal nearly as old  as
I am.

All  yours.

And, actually, in her TV show she spreads the praise to her staff of
hundreds 

You see, *that's* what I think is the false image. She's learned if she
wants to maintain favour with the public she has to show appreciation to
the little people. She didn't used to. She learned she had to. There's
nothing genuine in the tone of voice, facial expression, or look in her
eye. She has to make it look good for the camera, but there's no doubt
they're her minions and she doesn't consider them equal with her.

(though I still get the malicious giggles when a guest chef (or child)
starts flinging flour in "her" kitchen -- it's just the Oscar Madison in
me TWEAKING the Felix Ungers of the world....)

Yeah. I love seeing her cringe when she can't control someone
completely. I have empathy for people who are perfectionist and
obsessive/compulsive when they recognize that they're just like the rest
of us doing the best we can. I have none with the ones like her who take
it to extremes consider the rest of us lesser beings

=shrug=



She do rub a lot of folks (especially Westerners) the wrong way --
though
I think it could be a cultural thing.

Partly. With me it's being raised by someone who was considered a marvel
and a war hero and brilliant and caring by the rest of the world, her
adoring public, and was a vicious bully in private. I can see that same
cold eyed calculation in Martha. It's the eyes that are the give-away.
She calulcates every move, every flick of an eyelash for what looks good
in public. You can bet your bottom dollar she's a totally different
person in private. That false gaiety and false praise vanishes the
moment there are no witnesses, you can bet your life on that. People who
are "My Maaaaaaaaaahhhhvelous Assistants" in front of the camera will be
"YOU STUPID IDIOT!" the moment there's no one else there. Sooner or
later scandals will break open. It's only a matter of time.

otoh, don't have a case of Martha envy or feel I need to keep up with
her, so maybe I'm not a good judge, tygress

I have no envy of her, I have no desire or inclination to be like her or
do the things she advocates. I do not want a frou frou house full of
"Wooooonnnnnnerrfuilllll" bits of this and that. It isn't based on that
kind of thing, it's based on my (as George Carlin puts it) B**Sh**
detector. The over stating, the constant use of superlative words when
applied to herself or things she does is the first indication that all
is not as it seems. Then the look in those unfeeling, calculating eyes
is the tip off. Then the falseness of the tone of voice and body
language whenever she says anything positive to or about anyone other
than herself, and the warmth with which she praises herself, and the
hackles are up. Nothing I've seen since the first "what the?" has
indicated I'm wrong.

I don't believe her innocence in this insider trading charge for a split
second. No one as brilliant as she is, as controlling as she is, or as
financially savvy as she is, could have made a careless move in
something like that. It wasn't a moment of inattention or not knowing
what she was doing. Someone with that sense of self-importance, can,
however, think that the little people will never be smart enough to
catch her out.

As much as I'd like to see the people behind the fraud at Enron go down
for what they did, I'd like to see Martha go down - for a lesser version
of the same thing. White collar crime.

Laurie what's good for the goose is good for the gander Phoenix


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