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to: GEORGE POPE
from: LEE LOFASO
date: 2005-11-18 07:21:00
subject: Laws, Noachian 1/2

Hello George,

>LL>Peter was a hothead, getting in bar fights and killing at least two
>LL>people.  And Paul hated Christians, to the point of murdering
>LL>thousands of them.

GP>Paul, duh, but where do you get that about Peter?

Acts.

>GP>And Peter, Paul, and the rest of the post-crucifixion apostles, who
>GP>agreed that three laws remain in effect for all Christians:
>GP>-not to murder

>LL>Oh, well.  I guess both Peter and Paul have gone to Hell.

GP>Possibly, along with a lot of others!

Supposedly, they were forgiven for their sins.

GP>According to some of the earliest Christians, Jesus himself went to
GP>hell!

Of course He did.  Of course, He also escaped from Hell, freeing many
others in the process.

>GP>-not to commit adultery

>LL>Some folks say Peter was married.  And quite a womanizer.

GP>Which folks?  Based on what?

Jealous women who wanted Peter for themselves.  When those women
found out they couldn't have him, that he was already taken, they
started spreading wild rumors.  You know how some women are...

>LL>Some folks say Paul was gay, and had a problem with women.

GP>It's obvious he had issues with women (what with getting all his Xian
GP>training from a woman then denying anybody else that honor!) and there
GP>was a book out in the mid 1990's that suggested that Paul's
"thorn" was
GP>homosexuality. . .

Actually, Paul was a real ladies' man.  However, he did have one
problem.  Jesus was bald.  And Paul, not always having a razor or
a pair of scissors, could never be truly bald.

>GP>laws regarding respect of animal life, in not eating the life's
>GP>blood, and of burying the blood)

>LL>I guess that means all Cajuns are going to Hell, given some of the
>LL>foods we eat.

GP>Well, it depends on how worried God is about this particular detail this
GP>4,000+ years since He set that rule down to Noah!

Mebbe God was trying to remind Cajuns of them rules by sending two major
hurricanes our way.  :'(

>LL>Peter killed at least two men.  Paul killed thousands of men, women
>LL>and children.  And yet, both are considered saints.

GP>Jesus was a blaspheming hypocrit, and yet, he's considered GOD!!!

Jesus mocked the Devil all the time.

>LL>The first three commandments are what we owe God.  The next seven
>LL>commandments deal with man's relationship with his fellow man.  Jesus

GP>Actually, it's a 5-5 split!

When Moses came down from that mountain, he destroyed the first set of
tablets.  And then, when Moses came down from that mountain a second
time, he made sure them folks in the valley got the message.  You see,
when Moses held up them tablets in order to read da rulz to them folks
there was an inscription on the back of the tablets.  I say tablets,
but it was actually one giant tablet, split into two parts.  And on
the back of them tablets was written The Eleventh Commandment.  It
was The Eleventh Commandment that got them idolators to change their
evil ways.

GP>The front half of the tablets(laws 1-5) dealt with a sampling of
GP>commandments pertaining to God & man; the back half(laws 6-10) dealt
GP>with a sampling of commandments applicable to man-man interactions. . .

Listen up.  Moses stood on the mountain, holding up the tablets in order
to read da rulz to the folks in the valley.  But all them folks could
easily read the inscription on the back of the tablets.  Remember, Moses
was not able to get them folks to listen to him the first time.  That is
why God inscribed The Eleventh Commandment on the back of the tablets.

>LL>put things in a more succinct manner, citing two commandments - love
>LL>God, and love your neighbor as yourself.  If you love God, you will
>LL>love your neighbor.  And you already love yourself.

GP>Yeah, that was a fair summation, even though very much not understood
GP>nor followed.

"What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor.  That is the Torah.
All the rest is commentary." - Rabbi Hillel

GP>He said to love God with ALL your mind, ALL your strength, and ALL your
GP>heart -- so if you have even one minute in your life when you've not
GP>actively loved God with everything that is you, you've committed the
GP>gravest sin (in breaching the greatest commandment, you've obviously
GP>committed the greatest sin!)

If one loves God with all his mind/strength/heart, then one will
naturally love his neighbor as himself.  That is obvious.

GP>So that certainly makes all the other sins we point fingers about to
GP>others pale in comparison, eh?

If one truly loves God with all his mind/strength/heart, then how could
one even think about committing a sinful act?

>LL>citing the entire ten commandments in summation.  However, Jesus said
>LL>that was not enough.  There was one other thing one must do.  "Come,
>LL>follow me."  I'll let you figure out what He meant by that.

GP>Pretty plain -- drop everyyhing & live the life of a moral Jew!

Jesus was a Jew, as were his parents and all his relatives.  But Jesus
spoke not only to Jews, but also to others.

GP>Which made sense, as he was speaking to Jews (He intended the gospel
GP>first for the Jews, then the crumbs for the rest of the world, as in his
GP>own words!)

Jesus' words are for everyone, Jew and non-Jew alike.

>GP>And this sounds like something that fits in with who God is?
>GP>This also sounds to you like something Jesus preached/exemplified?

>LL>"Love one another, as I have loved you."
>LL>- Jesus, citing The 11th Commandment

GP>Did Jesus murder, lie, fornicate, et al?

Jesus was a fun guy, and crowds loved Him as a result.  Of course,
there were some folks who hated fun, and wanted to take the fun out
of everything.
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