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from: Father Cajone
date: 2003-01-15 04:00:00
subject: Re: OT Military

Nod...agreed Doc!  Some of the best folks I work with are
"migres" but they have a Green card allowing them to work.  I
have listened to some of the mothers of families in a 4 apartment building
next to one owned by a friend of mine learning English from their children
that are attending school as they insist their kids do their homework. 
Kind of strange isn't it that parents take the time to learn the language
of their new land from the kids?
Or is it that they take the time with their children so they might build a
better future for themselves?  Going a bit off topic but if more people
cared about their children they would spend time helping them with
homework...reading stories at bedtime...talking with them...singing little
songs together...letting them 'help' with household chores (even if it
takes a bit longer to let them feel important in household tasks)...kids
are more observant than most of us give them credit for.  

>From a message by > about Re: OT Military:
> How do they cost?
They are in the US to make an honest buck
They get 0 medical, 0 goverment benefits (yea lets talk about WHAT GROUP
actually hurts the economy), and they still pay taxes on what they buy ..
and it is true that alot of small farmers that use this type of "harvest"
wouldnt make it otherwise .. I guess buying non-american heavy equipment to
harvest produce might be a better way of doing things .. but I dont think
these people are bad .. In fact it would probably be better if we could
selectivly kick out alot of americans and let some of these illegals stay in
the country .. Too many people really forget that the US is not even 250
years old .. and it's made up of "Immigrants" .. I mean take a look around
..
and if it's the american jobs that your worried about .. then just wait till
the produce starts coming in fully on boats .. Clothes + Plastics +
Electronics come in on boats now .. so just get more stuff imported too !!
.. save the usa .. get it from china


----- Original Message -----
From: "feral" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:48 PM
Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military


>
> I understand economics. I'm not talking about ENRON crap either. Illegals
cause harm to the US economy, for the reasons I listed earlier, regardless
of what they
> spend to sustain themselves. The majority of them send part or most of
their earnings back to sustain their family in the country they came from.
Perhaps their working for substandard pay does allow Cherokee to buy cheap
produce. However, I wonder how much of Cherokee's tax money goes to waste as
a direct result of these illegal immigrants? Far more than the few pennies
he saves buying cheap produce.
>
> I stand reproached Sanders, illegals do make it easier for Cherokee to buy
cheap produce.
>
> (some of this reply was in rebuttal of Doc Who's earlier reply to my post,
if you are wondering where some of this came from)
>
> >From a message by col sanders about Re: OT Military:
> > Dude, you have no understanding of economics.  But, without going into
> it, thats not even what I argued.  I am not sure where you pulled that
> from, but I never said it "benefits the American people".  I said it
> allowed Cherokee to buy cheap produce.
>
> Col Sanders
>
>
>



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