-> -> Point is I guess if belief in a higher power gets an addict to come
-> -> and stay clean, all for the better. At least he doesn't push this.
-> -> Some people feel if they 'find a solution' they are  compelled to have
-> -> others do so as well or they feel they've failed and go back to their
-> -> dugs/booze etc. That's sad.

-> -> IMHO trading booze/and heroine for a deity is just swapping addictions
-> -> but well the latter at least won't kill you.

->  WC> You can address the underlaying circumstances that leads up
->  WC> to suppressing feelings with drugs or alcohol and then too there's
->  WC> the group Rational Recovery, no deities required.

->  Yep! I remember we talked about this a year or so ago. Whew got
-> somebody totally bent out of shape remember? I'm just saying if
-> something ilke a deity helps someone 'get clean' it's better than the
-> alternative which is certain death.

Do you hold this opinion in the case of George W. Bush?
He credits Christianity for getting him sober.
He also hears from God telling him to attack Iraq.
From his mouth to our ears.

Personally I think he needed more professional help.

-> From the perspective of a pernt, I'm irked by the head in sand
-> indifference of the parents. Too busy with their own lives and not
-> really wanting to admit their kids are in deep trouble.

My parents were too busy getting drunk, abusing each other and screaming
at us kids. 

Not an ideal childhood.
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