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from: sloppy
date: 2003-01-11 19:05:04
subject: Re: OT Military

Yes, its called martial law.  Thats what happens when
repeated attacks are made against a society, and if we don't take
steps to stop it now, it could escalate to that point.  I know
Hollywood (not the TW player ;) ) is cheesy, but the movie The Siege is a
vivid example of what may happen, and I found it to be quite moving even
before September 11th.  The military now has the right to hold
indefinately any U.S. citizen found to be engaged in military action
against U.S. troops (John Walker?? right name?), and I honestly don't know
what we need to do to stop NON-Americans from destroying the civil rights
of Americans.  Perhaps a culling is in order....
 
> 
>So your saying that ONE SOUL ACT by
non-Americans is enough to take away 
>some of the freedom of Americans.. 
>Does this mean that "IF" these
attacks continue that more freedom will be 
>lost .. 
>Valid Point of View .. 
> 
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "sloppy" 
>To: 
>Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 11:42 PM 
>Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military 
> 
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> > 
> > 

> > 
 
> > 
We lost that freedom because a group of "men" took it
upon themselves 
>to abuse the system to achieve their goal of
killing American civilians.

> > 
> 
> > 
>That's not the point either .. 
> > 
>Talk about freedom .. what happened to the freedom of 
>locking your bags .. 
> > 
>When you fly now bags stay unlocked .. 
> > 
>Killing someone doesnt "Give"
freedom either .. so you just 
>completely came 
> > 
>out and said something that's just way out there .. 
> > 
> 
> > 
>----- Original Message ----- 
> > 
>From: "Sting" 
> > 
>To: 
> > 
>Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 10:11 PM 
> > 
>Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military 
> > 
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> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > SOMEONE HAS TO PAY FOR YOUR FREEDOM!! 
> > 
> > BECAUSE IT"S NOT FREE !!! 
> > 
> > Sting 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > 
> > From: "<>" 
> > 
> > To: 
> > 
> > Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 07:27 
> > 
> > Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > > 
> > 
> > > I dont think that's his point 
> > 
> > > When it comes down to it
you have to be able to 
>handle killing someone 
> > 
> > else 
> > 
> > > just because it's the
political thing to do .. 
>If you cant handle that 
> > 
> > Idea 
> > 
> > > then you shouldnt be in
the military (Regardless 
>of position) 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > my .02 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > 
> > > From: "pagan"

> > 
> > > To: 
> > 
> > > Sent: Saturday, January
11, 2003 12:14 PM 
> > 
> > > Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re:
OT Military 
> > 
> > > 
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> > > 
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> > > > 
> > 
> > > > You would be
surprized to know that the 
>overwhelming majority of 
> > 
>service 
> > 
> > > men and women never fire
a shot outside of basic 
>training or a firing 
> > 
> > range. 
> > 
> > > In fact, there are more
opportunities to save 
>lives or make living 
> > 
> > > conditions more habitable
than to take them. 
>Yes, even in an all out war 
> > 
> > > situation. 
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> > > > 
> > 
> > > > Pagan 
> > 
> > > > 
> > 
> > > > 
> > 
> > > > >From a
message by prestone about Re: OT 
>Military: 
> > 
> > > > > as long
as you don't have a problem 
>killing your fellow human 
> > 
>beings, 
> > 
> > go 
> > 
> > > for it. 
> > 
> > > > > 
> > 
> > > > >
>From a message by sloppy about OT 
>Military: 
> > 
> > > > >
> With an anticipated graduation 
>from college in December, I've 
> > 
>been 
> > 
> > > pondering what to do from
this point on in life. 
>I recently hit upon 
> > 
>the 
> > 
> > > idea of the military, was
wondering if people 
>could offer input, horror 
> > 
> > > stories, advice,
warnings, etc. Anything would 
>be appreciated. 
> > 
> > > > > 
> > 
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> > 



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