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from: Cherokee
date: 2003-01-13 16:41:52
subject: Re: OT Military

So violating the law is ok as long as it results in something
productive?

--- col sanders  wrote:
> 
> Not every illegal immigrant is here to deny us freedom and overthrow
> our 
> government... some are here picking oranges in Florid.

Col Sanders


Cherokee wrote:

>It amazes me how utterly unable you are to answer a simple question.
>
>Which fact did I state that is incorrect?
>
> 
>
>--- col sanders  wrote:
>  
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>>Ok dude, real quick, use this, even though its the UN it looks to be 
>>pretty accurate...  (Usually I find the UN to be WAY liberal)  It
>>will 
>>show you where your facts are wrong and maybe give the two of you
>>some 
>>facts to agree upon so you can have an intelligent conversation...
>>
>>http://ww!did.org/Depts/dpa/ngo/history.html
>>
>>Cherokee wrote:
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>>>No sticking your toes in Sanders, either jump in our stay the heck
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>>out.
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>>>What facts did I getr wrong?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--- col sanders  wrote:
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>>>>I would jump in but I don' have time today , both of you can
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>>rest 
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>>>>assures the answer is somewhere between the two of you.  You both
>>>>seem 
>>>>to represent opposite sides but are unwilling to agree on the
>>>>*facts*. 
>>>>If you cannot do that much, you will never have agreement.
>>>>
>>>>Col Sanders
>>>>
>>>>Cherokee wrote:
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>>>>>--- sloppy  wrote:
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>>>>>>Israeli abuse of Palestinans? Israeli men aren't strapping
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>>>>themselves
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>>>>>full of explosives and shooting their way into Palestinan
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>>>>settlements.
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>>>>>No, but Israeli soldiers have killed hundreds of innocent
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>>>>Palestinians,
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>>>>>in addition to lots of guilty ones. The Israeli Army occupies
>>>>>Palestinian villages and refuge camps, and supports colonization
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>>>>(heh,
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>>>>>had to stick a TW term in here) of land that does not rightfully
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>>>>belong
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>>>>>to Israel.  Who do you think lived in Israel before 1948?  It
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>>wasn't
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>>>>>the Jews. 
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>>We should stand by Israel because they have been dealing with
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>>>>>terrorist attacks for years, and maybe, just maybe if the Arab
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>>world
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>>>>>(besides Egypt and Jordan) would accept the right of Israel to
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>>>>exist,
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>>>>>steps could be made to end the violence.
>>>>>
>>>>>Israel's policies towards the Arabs have brought on the terrorist
>>>>>attacks, just as US policy in the Middle East brought on Sep 11. 
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>>>>I'm
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>>>>>not saying terrorism is justified, far from it.  But just because
>>>>>someone is attacked by a terrorist does not mean they are right
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>>>>>
>>and
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>>>>>that we should support their policies. What do you think would
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>>make
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>>>>the
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>>>>>rest of the Arab world recognize Israel's right to
exist?  And why
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>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>do
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>>>>>you think the Israelis should have the right to exist but the
>>>>>Palestinians should not?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>>I personally believe however that there can never
be peace in the
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>>>>>Middle East until "Palestinans" are gone. And
why are they called
>>>>>Palestinans by everyone? They are just Arabs that happen to be
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>>>>>
>>>>>          
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>>>>living
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>>>>>in that region of the Middle East.
>>>>>
>>>>>So your answer is genocide of the Palestinian people?  They are
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>called
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>>>>>Palestinians because they live in Palestine, just like we are
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>called
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>>>>>Americans because we live in America. According to your logic,
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>>>>>
>>most
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>>>>>Americans are just Europeans that happen to be living
in America. 
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>We
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>>>>>should just be called Europeans, and whoever is strong enough to
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>>>>push
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>>>>>us around and occupy our territory is justified in doing so.
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