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from: Cherokee
date: 2003-01-13 11:48:08
subject: Re: OT Military

The nukes we dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki are NOT the only weapons
of mass destruction ever to be used.  In fact, they were not even the
FIRST.

In WWI, both sides used chlorine based asphyxiating agents starting in
1915. Mustard gas was used in WWI by the Germans starting in September
1917. 

Since then, many other countries have used chemical weapons, including
Italy, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Libya, and Sudan.

The USA is merely the only country to drop Nuclear weapons on our
enemies.



--- col sanders  wrote:
> 
> Dude, that was over around 50 years ago, and so what.  The nukes we
> used 
> were no different than the firebombing od Dresden or any of the other
> 
> German cities we incinerated.  War is ugly, those that can't handle
> it 
> should not start it.
> 
> Col Sanders
> 
>  wrote:
> 
> >;)
> >Well .. as it stands the US of A is the only country to EVER use a
> Weapon of
> >MASS destruction ..
> >so they might as well do it again .. while telling the other
> country's that
> >they are a "threat"
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "sloppy" 
> >To: 
> >Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 12:19 AM
> >Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Oh we have the ability to destroy them, it is called a
> thermonuclear
> >>    
> >>
> >warhead and it does wonders to get rid of
"pissants".  Too bad
> I am not
> >at my normal comp or we could fight about this on icq
> ;)
> >  
> >
> >>
> >>>From: "<>" 
> >>>To: mathewtate{at}hotmail.com
> >>>Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military
> >>>Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 19:13:51 -0500
> >>>
> >>>One must remember that some of
the arab nations are
> trying
> >>    
> >>
> >to do the
> >  
> >
> >>>"Culling" right now
.. I dont see the problem ever
> going
> >>    
> >>
> >away to be honest
> >  
> >
> >>>.. On one hand you have a giant
that's trying to
> kill
> >>    
> >>
> >pissants .. and on the
> >  
> >
> >>>other hand you have pissants
who are destroying
> things the
> >>    
> >>
> >giant owns ..
> >  
> >
> >>>Neither has the ability to kill
the other .. but
> both
> >>    
> >>
> >continue to fight ..
> >  
> >
> >>>The "American"
Political system is what's driving
> these
> >>    
> >>
> >problems .. and
> >  
> >
> >>>since 9-11 they are doing
nothing but driving the
> problems
> >>    
> >>
> >harder and harder
> >  
> >
> >>>.. The world is going to hell
and bush is driving
> heh
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "sloppy"

> >>>To: 
> >>>Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 12:06 AM
> >>>Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >
> >>Yes, its called martial law.  Thats what happens when
> repeated
> >>>attacks are made against
a society, and if we
> don't
> >>    
> >>
> >take steps to stop
> >  
> >
> >>>it now, it could escalate to
that point.  I
> know
> >>    
> >>
> >Hollywood (not the TW
> >  
> >
> >>>player ;) ) is cheesy, but the
movie The Siege is a
> vivid
> >>    
> >>
> >example of what
> >  
> >
> >>>may happen, and I found it to
be quite moving even
> before
> >>    
> >>
> >September
> >  
> >
> >>>11th.  The military
now has the right to hold
> >>    
> >>
> >indefinately any U.S.
> >  
> >
> >>>citizen found to be engaged in
military action
> against U.S.
> >>    
> >>
> >troops (John
> >  
> >
> >>>Walker?? right name?), and I
honestly don't know
> what we
> >>    
> >>
> >need to do to stop
> >  
> >
> >>>NON-Americans from destroying
the civil rights of
> >>    
> >>
> >Americans.  Perhaps a
> >  
> >
> >>>culling is in order....
> >>
> >>> >
> >> 
> >>> >
> >>> 
> >>> >
> >>>So your saying that ONE SOUL
ACT by non-Americans is
> enough
> >>>to take away
> >>> >
> >>>some of the freedom of Americans..
> >>> >
> >>>Does this mean that
"IF" these attacks continue that
> more
> >>>freedom will be
> >>> >
> >>>lost ..
> >>> >
> >>>Valid Point of View ..
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>> >
> >>>From: "sloppy"

> >>> >
> >>>To: 
> >>> >
> >>>Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 11:42 PM
> >>> >
> >>>Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >> 
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>We lost that freedom because a group of
"men" took it upon
> themselves
> >>> >
> >>>to abuse the system to achieve
their goal of killing
> >>>American civilians.
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> 
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>That's not the point either ..
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>Talk about freedom .. what
happened to the freedom
> of
> >>> >
> >>>locking your bags ..
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>When you fly now bags stay unlocked ..
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>Killing someone doesnt
"Give" freedom either .. so
> you just
> >>> >
> >>>completely came
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>out and said something that's
just way out there ..
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>From: "Sting"

> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>To: 
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 10:11 PM
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > SOMEONE HAS TO PAY
FOR YOUR FREEDOM!!
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > BECAUSE IT"S NOT FREE !!!
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Sting
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > From:
"<>"
> 
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > To: 
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Sent: Saturday,
January 11, 2003 07:27
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Subject: [twgsdotorg]
Re: OT Military
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > I dont think
that's his point
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > When it
comes down to it you have to be
> able to
> >>> >
> >>>handle killing someone
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > else
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > just because
it's the political thing to
> do ..
> >>> >
> >>>If you cant handle that
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Idea
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > then you
shouldnt be in the military
> (Regardless
> >>> >
> >>>of position)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > my .02
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > -----
Original Message -----
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > From:
"pagan" 
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > To:

> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > Sent:
Saturday, January 11, 2003 12:14 PM
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > Subject:
[twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > > You
would be surprized to know that
> the
> >>> >
> >>>overwhelming majority of
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>service
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > men and
women never fire a shot outside
> of basic
> >>> >
> >>>training or a firing
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > range.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > In fact,
there are more opportunities to
> save
> >>> >
> >>>lives or make living
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > conditions
more habitable than to take
> them.
> >>> >
> >>>Yes, even in an all out war
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > situation.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > > Pagan
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > >
>From a message by prestone about
> Re: OT
> >>> >
> >>>Military:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > >
> as long as you don't have a
> problem
> >>> >
> >>>killing your fellow human
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>beings,
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > go
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > for it.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > >
> >From a message by sloppy
> about OT
> >>> >
> >>>Military:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > >
> > With an anticipated
> graduation
> >>> >
> >>>from college in December, I've
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>been
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > pondering
what to do from this point on
> in life.
> >>> >
> >>>I recently hit upon
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>the
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > idea of the
military, was wondering if
> people
> >>> >
> >>>could offer input, horror
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > stories,
advice, warnings, etc. Anything
> would
> >>> >
> >>>be appreciated.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >
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