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from: sloppy
date: 2003-01-15 11:00:36
subject: Re: OT Military-Civilian benefits

Hehe, I actually live in North Dakota, grew up in Minnesota as
well.  Until the Welfare was reformed a few years back so that you
only got so many years of benefits, these migrant "workers" were
nothing more then people who came up here and applied for Welfare benefits,
fuel assistance, food stamps, and so forth without ever holding a
job.  The countryside around my house is filled with field after
field of beets, and it was more common to see the actual farmers out
working the fields then the migrant "workers".  Things
have started to change some since Clinton reformed welfare, but still a
long way to go up here.  Migrant "workers" aren't the
victims really.

>Just a thought...the state with the smallest
population has the most effective MediCare coverage in the USA...North
Dakota and that state also employs many migrant workers during harvest
season so idea about 'illegal' workers does not apply just to FL 'orange
pickers'. At least in the Upper Midwest local folks tend to kick in and
help the people helping them with the hard work of producing food for the
rest of us have a bit of decent housing, clothes on their backs, education
for their children and letting them them know that their hard work is
appreciated! 
> 
> >From a message by mirkath about Re:
OT Military: 
> > At 05:20 PM 1/14/2003 -0500, you wrote: 
> 
> >How do they cost? 
> >They are in the US to make an honest buck 
> >They get 0 medical, 0 goverment
benefits (yea lets talk 
> 
> 
>Your ignorance of reality is showing.... ask
people from California about 
>the 0 medical and 0 government benefits.
Also when was the last time you 
>were in a hospital? Have you seen the little
notice about not refusing 
>emergency medical service even if a person
can not pay for it? Or if you 
>are in Louisiana, the services provided by
the Mercy hospital system which 
>is heavily subsidized by the state. Any way
you cut it, those services 
>drive up costs for those of us that do pay,
either for medical services out 
>of pocket, or insurances premiums, or for
taxpayers in general. 
> 
>I am making no stand as to whether it is
good or bad that they are here, 
>just that your broad brush generalization is
in error. 
> 
> 
> 
>Mark 
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