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subject: RE: Re: [Calpagan] Glastonbury Temple PS --

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>> I agree that Britain, Brittany, Breton, etc came from Pict, but I'm not
>> sure Brigid is only Irish and local.
>> Bride, Bridget, Birgitta, Brigette, etc are fairly common throughout
>> Celtic/Teutonic societies. I'm pretty sure I learned the name came from
>> the Celtic/Teutonic (of which Picts, Scots, Irish, and Cornishmen were
>> branches) goddess of life
>> 
>
>No such thing.  Celt/Teutonic 'pantheons' (not the best word for them, either)
>were comprised of (generally) local goddesses and tribal gods - when a tribe
>moved, it brought its gods, who then 'married' the goddesses of the land. 
>That's who Maeve is believed to be in the Tain Bo Cuiligne (sp) - a literary
>holdover of an Irish land goddess.  And the province of deities wasn't quite as
>clear-cut as 'life', 'death,' or any other category (Miranda Green, but damned
>if I remember which title.  Also HR Ellis-Davison).  Dumezil (ugh) likes to
>divide the pantheons of all Indo-European preChristians into
>producer/warrior/priest classes, and I'd hazard a guess he'd put Bridid into a
>producer class - midwife, craft-goddess, poetry, the forge- the traditional
>associations I remember from Green.
>
> While those names (Bride, Bridget, etc) are certainly common, I think it's a
>safe bet that the pagan church of the goddess is counting on the association
>with the very well known Irish Brigid.  If they're a wiccan group (just a
>guess, I don't know) they may not even care that they're mixing pantheons,
>traditions, or cultures - pantheists/duotheists don't generally see a problem
>with doing that, because all goddesses are part of THE goddess.  
>
>darkelf
>
>clear-cut as 'life', 'death,' or any other category (Miranda Green, but damned
>if I remember which title.  Also HR Ellis-Davison).  Dumezil (ugh) likes to
>divide the pantheons of all Indo-European preChristians into
>producer/warrior/priest classes, and I'd hazard a guess he'd put Bridid into a
>producer class - midwife, craft-goddess, poetry, the forge- the traditional
>associations I remember from Green.
>
> While those names (Bride, Bridget, etc) are certainly common, I think it's a
>safe bet that the pagan church of the goddess is counting on the association
>with the very well known Irish Brigid.  If they're a wiccan group (just a
>guess, I don't know) they may not even care that they're mixing pantheons,
>traditions, or cultures - pantheists/duotheists don't generally see a problem
>with doing that, because all goddesses are part of THE goddess.  
>
>darkelf
>
That's about right.  There was some converse between the Isles. But the
Great Goddess of the area around Glastonbury, was, I believe, a
"cousin" of Rhiannon -- The Great Queen -- of the Mabinogion. 
There are several "comparative" mythographers that want 
c dieties. Almost works, but not quite. The Danaan are a memeory of all the
old gods, as are the Sidhi, but they may have been the denizens of the Land
of the Dead in the Iron Age. Hard to put it all together in our modern era,
we don't ive in the same "o

According to the Mabinogion, this is the place where both Bran the Blessed and
Artus -- the bear god of Cornwall that became one of the genus for Arthus --
kept their "palaces"; and, later, both became associated with the Fairies
Underhill later on. Just my 2 cents. Lezlie

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