>whoa whoa.... she wasn't talking about *us*... it was a generic, more
>expansive "you"
>just as, radical feminist or not, we weren't talking about "Lezlie" but
a
>type. all hands stand down :)
>no worries....

Thanks, Kes --

Didn't mean to ruffle feathers -- no jerks on this beach. The types you
are
describing are a minority -- they are in every movement, the
anti-feminist and
terrifically conservative types have many -- I have noticed --
humorless snots
who just don't get it. (You know, the variety that thinks "Star Trek" is
a
satanic/communist plot). BTW, check out Maureen Reagan's accounts of the
early
protests during the '60s -- they  are a scream! Lezlie
>
I was *part* of the protests in the 60s - the first time I protested
publicly against being treated unfairly was in 1959 - before we were
protesting "for" anything, before the activities had been called a
"movement" before the movement had been given a name. 

I was part of the childhood of the 50s that knows "Happy Days" was a lie
- being a child in the 50s was good memories for a small minority - the
middle-class white male. It was not a good time for anyone who was not
male or not white. I was made to stand up in class so that the class
could laugh at me for my answer to the question of what I wanted to do
after school - and this was not considered a bad thing, this was
considered to be good for me. One of my closest friends, actually she
had been a foster sister in one of the foster homes I lived in as a
child, was a news anchor in New Zealand and considered herself to be a
big fish in a small pond, so she came over here to broaden her career
options - she got no work at all in the United States, being told over
and over that reading the news was not a woman's job, and that listeners
would have no faith in a woman. She was offered jobs in Canada to be the
weather girl, do the "women's things," or (because she was so good at
her job) to teach in broadcast school - but again she couldn't be an
anchor woman. This was 1968 and 1969.

Some of it *was* a scream - some of it was heartbreaking and
humiliating. 

It hurts me to the core to see that a lifetime of working for equality
has resulted in other people (like men in the court system) being denied
the same rights we were denied - even before we've managed to obtain
what we've been striving for in all areas. I'm for all people having the
same rights and the same accountability. It's as if I've put all this
time, effort, and pain into nothing when I see it turned into hurting
others in the way we and our foremothers were hurt.

Laurie


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