Replying to a message of mark lewis to Ross Cassell:

 ml>> FWIW: i don't understand everyone else whining about folk using the
 ml>> services that they have paid into for so long and never will use...

 RC>> When the system gets abused by those who didnt pay into it?

 ml> why is that abuse? there is nothing that i'm aware of that says anyone
 ml> who participates in is must have paid something into it...

 ml> why is it abuse when they can use the monies that you have paid in
 ml> that you'll never use?

IMO one way to eleiminate the welfare 'problem' is to put a firm time limit
on how long one may draw it - say one year.  After that period one would
have the option to move to a government owned housing area (condo, apartment,
closed military base, whatever) and receive government issued food (in dining
halls, no kitchens in the units) and clothing.  If one - or one's children -
misbehaves or trashes their quarters,  they're on the street.  The object is to
take the money out of the system, and replace it with the necessities of life.
Recipients are perfectly free to obtain employment - and pay rent of, say, 40%
of their net income (sort of like the residents of the various 'St Peter's waiting
rooms' aka 'assisted living facilities for the elderly' pay) - until they make enough
money to move out into the economy.

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