Dude, it takes 2 to tango, the "Arab" governments and civilians are just 
as guilty as the US government is.

 wrote:

>One must remember that some of the arab nations are trying to do the
>"Culling" right now .. I dont see the problem ever going away
to be honest
>.. On one hand you have a giant that's trying to kill pissants .. and on the
>other hand you have pissants who are destroying things the giant owns ..
>Neither has the ability to kill the other .. but both continue to fight ..
>The "American"  Political system is what's driving these
problems .. and
>since 9-11 they are doing nothing but driving the problems harder and harder
>.. The world is going to hell and bush is driving heh
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "sloppy" 
>To: 
>Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 12:06 AM
>Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military
>
>
>  
>
>>
>>Yes, its called martial law.  Thats what happens
when repeated
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>attacks are made against a society, and if we don't take steps to stop
>it now, it could escalate to that point.  I know Hollywood (not the TW
>player ;) ) is cheesy, but the movie The Siege is a vivid example of what
>may happen, and I found it to be quite moving even before September
>11th.  The military now has the right to hold indefinately any U.S.
>citizen found to be engaged in military action against U.S. troops (John
>Walker?? right name?), and I honestly don't know what we need to do to stop
>NON-Americans from destroying the civil rights of Americans.  Perhaps a
>culling is in order....
>  
>
>> 
>>> 
>>>So your saying that ONE SOUL ACT by
non-Americans is enough
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>>
>to take away
>  
>
>>>some of the freedom of Americans..
>>>Does this mean that "IF"
these attacks continue that more
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>freedom will be
>  
>
>>>lost ..
>>>Valid Point of View ..
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "sloppy"

>>>To: 
>>>Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 11:42 PM
>>>Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>
>>> >
>> 
>>> >
>>We lost that freedom because a group of "men"
took it upon themselves
>>>to abuse the system to achieve their
goal of killing
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>American civilians.
>  
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>>
>>> >
>>> 
>>> >
>>>That's not the point either ..
>>> >
>>>Talk about freedom .. what happened
to the freedom of
>>>locking your bags ..
>>> >
>>>When you fly now bags stay unlocked ..
>>> >
>>>Killing someone doesnt
"Give" freedom either .. so you just
>>>completely came
>>> >
>>>out and said something that's just
way out there ..
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>> >
>>>From: "Sting"

>>> >
>>>To: 
>>> >
>>>Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 10:11 PM
>>> >
>>>Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > SOMEONE HAS TO PAY FOR
YOUR FREEDOM!!
>>> >
>>> > BECAUSE IT"S NOT FREE !!!
>>> >
>>> > Sting
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >
>>> > From:
"<>" 
>>> >
>>> > To: 
>>> >
>>> > Sent: Saturday, January
11, 2003 07:27
>>> >
>>> > Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re:
OT Military
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > I dont think
that's his point
>>> >
>>> > > When it comes
down to it you have to be able to
>>>handle killing someone
>>> >
>>> > else
>>> >
>>> > > just because it's
the political thing to do ..
>>>If you cant handle that
>>> >
>>> > Idea
>>> >
>>> > > then you shouldnt
be in the military (Regardless
>>>of position)
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > my .02
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > ----- Original
Message -----
>>> >
>>> > > From:
"pagan" 
>>> >
>>> > > To:

>>> >
>>> > > Sent: Saturday,
January 11, 2003 12:14 PM
>>> >
>>> > > Subject:
[twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > >
>>> >
>>> > > > You
would be surprized to know that the
>>>overwhelming majority of
>>> >
>>>service
>>> >
>>> > > men and women
never fire a shot outside of basic
>>>training or a firing
>>> >
>>> > range.
>>> >
>>> > > In fact, there
are more opportunities to save
>>>lives or make living
>>> >
>>> > > conditions more
habitable than to take them.
>>>Yes, even in an all out war
>>> >
>>> > > situation.
>>> >
>>> > > >
>>> >
>>> > > > Pagan
>>> >
>>> > > >
>>> >
>>> > > >
>>> >
>>> > > >
>From a message by prestone about Re: OT
>>>Military:
>>> >
>>> > > > >
as long as you don't have a problem
>>>killing your fellow human
>>> >
>>>beings,
>>> >
>>> > go
>>> >
>>> > > for it.
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>From a message by sloppy about OT
>>>Military:
>>> >
>>> > > > >
> With an anticipated graduation
>>>from college in December, I've
>>> >
>>>been
>>> >
>>> > > pondering what to
do from this point on in life.
>>>I recently hit upon
>>> >
>>>the
>>> >
>>> > > idea of the
military, was wondering if people
>>>could offer input, horror
>>> >
>>> > > stories, advice,
warnings, etc. Anything would
>>>be appreciated.
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> >
>>> > > >
>>> >
>>> > > >
>>> >
>>> > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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