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to: LEE LOFASO
from: George Pope
date: 2005-11-19 22:55:52
subject: Laws, Noachian 2/2

On (18 Nov 05) LEE LOFASO wrote to GEORGE POPE...
 LL> Of course Paul addressed different audiences, depending where
 LL> he was.  But the fact remains that Paul addressed EVERYONE, Jew
 LL> and non-Jew alike.

But not every theme/message was for EVERYONE. . .

 LL> >LL>Who did Jesus cite as His authority?  What rabbi, or rabbinical
 LL> school
 LL> >LL>of thought?  Or did He make everything up, all on His own?
 LL>
 LL> GP>He had clearly received the prevalent oral traditions (eg. in
 LL> giving a
 LL> GP>blessing of God before breaking bread)
 LL>
 LL> Answer the question.  Who did Jesus cite as His authority?  Do you
 LL> know?

His Father, and the Torah, and himself, as representing those two.

 LL> Jesus was not a Pharisee.  Remember, it was the Pharisees who wanted
 LL> the
 LL> Great Sanhedrin to try Jesus on charges that could result in the death
 LL> penalty.  And remember it was the Sadducees who ran the Great
 LL> Sanhedrin.
 LL> Has it ever occurred to you that the Great Sanhedrin *acquitted*
 LL> Jesus,
 LL> choosing not to condemn an innocent man?  Has it ever occurred to you
 LL> that the Jews did not kill Christ?

Well, DUH!!! Ran out of ammunition in directly addressing my own words,
so you'll toss out this strawman?
Nobody who has READ the Bible AND has a modicum of historical knowledge
would ever say the Jews killed Jesus!

The Sanhedrin that tried Jesus wasn't even Jewish -- it has been taken
over by Rome with their appointees!

1) they held the trial after sundown (directly prohibited in capital
cases)

2) the senior/eldest member spoke his verdict first (directly prohibited
in ANY cases, as it's sure to prejudice the younger/junior judges)

3) They did not deliberate 24 hours before passing sentence (as was
required in capital cases)

Furthermore, sentence was passed by the Roman adjudicator (Pilate),
which sentence was lashes(whipping) then he illegally condemned Jesus
with a second sentence (the Romans already had prohibitions against
Double Jeopardy situations, so Jesus was legally free and clear after
the 40 lashes!

Thus he wasn't just killed by the Roman magistrate, but MURDERED by the
Romans!

Let's say the Jewish court HAD ruled consistent with the national Law
Code then they'd have been divinely OBLIGATED to sentence Jesus to die
by stoning(a keyword here); if they hadn't they'd've been judges who
were disobedient to God's commands, and would've been in danger of
divine retribution for such!

The rule God gave to the judges ("elohim") was to excise such sins as
blasphemy from their(Israel's) midst through capital punishmen(stoning,
to be specific)



Because I care,
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