"Josh Hill"  wrote in message
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> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:02:36 -0500, "Dennis \(Icarus\)"
>  wrote:
>
> >"Josh Hill"  wrote in message
> >news:gfskh39lal1sco0c1976ejm6a7np7d6531{at}4ax.com...
> >>
> >> >Josh Hill wrote:
> >>
> >> >> It was certainly true before there were unions: in some cases,
> >> >> employees were literally worked to death. And
non-union companies
like
> >> >> Wal-Mart pay their people miserable salaries. In some states,
Wal-Mart
> >> >> employees have signed up for Medicaid because they
don't get medical
> >> >> insurance.
> >> >
> >> >I keep hearing this, but people I know personally who
work at Wal-Mart
> >> >are all happy with it. They report NONE of the supposed abuses that
> >> >activists are always talking about. I think unions are
just spreading
> >> >lies about how horrible it is to work without having
union dues forced
> >> >out of your pocket. They see how much power they could
get by bringing
> >> >down a company that large, and they want it.
> >>
> >> According to a web site I found:
> >>
> >> In 2001, sales associates, the most common job in Wal-Mart, earned on
> >> average $8.23 an hour for annual wages of $13,861. The 2001 poverty
> >> line for a family of three was $14,630. ["Is Wal-Mart
Too Powerful?",
> >> Business Week, 10/6/03, US Dept of Health and Human Services 2001
> >> Poverty Guidelines, 2001]
> >
> >And 8.23 is a couple of bukcs over the minimum wage in 2001.
> >
> >>
> >> A 2003 wage analysis reported that cashiers, the second most common
> >> job, earn approximately $7.92 per hour and work 29 hours a week. This
> >> brings in annual wages of only $11,948. ["Statistical Analysis of
> >> Gender Patterns in Wal-Mart's Workforce", Dr. Richard Drogin 2003]
> >> Wal-Mart Associates don't earn enough to support a family
> >
> >Still over the minimum wage in 2003.
> >
> >>
> >> The average two-person family (one parent and one child) needed
> >> $27,948 to meet basic needs in 2005, well above what Wal-Mart reports
> >> that its average full-time associate earns. Wal-Mart claimed that its
> >> average associate earned $9.68 an hour in 2005. That would make the
> >> average associate's annual wages $17,114. ["Basic Family Budget
> >> Calculator" online at www.epinet.org]
> >
> >Still well over the minumum wage in 2005.
> >
> >>
> >> http://www.wakeupwalmart.com/facts/
> >>
> >> It seems they're paying poverty-level wages.
> >
> >And above the minimum wage.
>
> And I believe it was Carl who referred to the minimum wage, not I. I
> referred to the poverty-level wages paid by non-union companies like
> Wal-Mart: The minimum wage is even lower than that, in part because
> the Republicans block increases.
>

So what should the minimum wage be?
10 dollars an hour?
20? 40?

When I see MicDonalds, Wendy's, they're just paying minimum wage.

> >> >>And non-union companies like
> >> >> Wal-Mart pay their people miserable salaries. In some states,
Wal-Mart
> >> >> employees have signed up for Medicaid because they
don't get medical
> >> >> insurance.
>
> >Thnk that may be why they have thousands of applicants when a new store
> >opens?
>
> That merely says that poor people are desperate for work: unemployment
> and underemployment are endemic in that segment of the population.
>

Dennis



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