"Josh Hill"  wrote in message
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> On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:11:26 -0500, "Dennis \(Icarus\)"
>  wrote:
>
> >"Josh Hill"  wrote in message
> >news:lmgnh3l8v2lnul121q6mlosp5khhuoo450{at}4ax.com...

> >>
> >> Perhaps, but I wasn't talking about people who work at minimum wage.
> >> You were the one who brought that up. I was talking about people who
> >> earn poverty-level wages, like employees at Wal-Mart.
> >
> >The minumum wage, being less than what Wal Mart pays, seems to fit your
> >definition of "poverty level wages".
>
> Guess you didn't see the figures I posted from that web site. It seems
> that Wal-Mart's wages are higher than the minimum, but they still put
> some employees below the poverty line, and others only slight above
> it.

So talking about folks making the minimum wage less than Wal Mart pays,
would fit your definition of poverty level wages.

>
> >Would you trust GWB and the Republicans to run your health care?
> >:-)
>
> You have a point . . .
>
> Seriously, I'm not wild about government care. But having no
> insurance, or having managed care or one of these phony individual
> insurance plans that drop you when you become seriously ill is worse.
>

Well, we could always address the needs of the uninsured, except government
programs just tend to get larger over time.

> >>
> >> > How about the US electronics
> >> >industry?
> >>
> >> >Make everyone pay more and more for everything and people will buy
> >> >less and less of it.  You'll have wonderfully paid employees for a
short
> >> >time,
> >> >until they get laid off.
> >> >
> >> >Great business model.
> >>
> >> For which you can thank the Republicans and their support for
> >> unbridled globalization. American factory worker earning $20 an hour
> >> competes with Chinese factory worker earning 15 cents an hour. Result:
> >> American factory closes. Great business model.
> >>
> >
> >So what would you like? Embargo? Tariffs?
>
> Tariffs would I think be the way to go. But I suspect we wouldn't even
> have to go that far (and it would take some doing to get there, since
> they'd probably be illegal under current agreements). Right now, the
> Asian countries are manipulating their currencies, dumping, engaging
> in protectionism, stealing our intellectual property. I'd tell them
> that if they didn't clean up their act they'd face tariffs. I'd repeal
> tax incentives that encourage companies to move factories overseas.
> And I'd require that foreign companies meet basic labor and
> environmental standards. I suspect that those measures would be
> enough. One doesn't want to go too far, to cause a depression or halt
> the industrialization of the third world, which is in our interest as
> well as theirs. The idea would be to move slowly and act
> conservatively, and to bring the other industrialized countries --
> with whom we should IMO have a common market free of impediments to
> commerce -- along. Done correctly, there wouldn't be much by way of
> actual tariffs, since the third world countries would find it in their
> interest to comply.
>

And what are the basic standards?

Dennis


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