YOU are blaming the other party, almost exclusively.....  So are the 
rest of the blame America first people.  While I admit that our foreign 
policy certainly needs review, I am no about to agree that anything we 
have done in the middle east warrants the response we were given on 9-11.  

Col Sanders

 wrote:

>Yeap!!!
>So why isnt anyone blaming the "OTHER" Guilty Party...
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "col sanders" 
>To: 
>Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 3:51 PM
>Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military
>
>
>  
>
>>Dude, it takes 2 to tango, the "Arab" governments and
civilians are just
>>as guilty as the US government is.
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>One must remember that some of the arab nations are trying to do the
>>>"Culling" right now .. I dont see the problem ever
going away to be
>>>      
>>>
>honest
>  
>
>>>.. On one hand you have a giant that's trying to kill pissants .. and on
>>>      
>>>
>the
>  
>
>>>other hand you have pissants who are destroying things the giant owns ..
>>>Neither has the ability to kill the other .. but both continue to fight
>>>      
>>>
>..
>  
>
>>>The "American"  Political system is what's driving
these problems .. and
>>>since 9-11 they are doing nothing but driving the problems harder and
>>>      
>>>
>harder
>  
>
>>>.. The world is going to hell and bush is driving heh
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "sloppy" 
>>>To: 
>>>Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 12:06 AM
>>>Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>

>>>>Yes, its called martial law.  Thats what
happens when repeated
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>attacks are made against a society, and if we don't
take steps to
>>>      
>>>
>stop
>  
>
>>>it now, it could escalate to that point.  I know
Hollywood (not the
>>>      
>>>
>TW
>  
>
>>>player ;) ) is cheesy, but the movie The Siege is a vivid example of what
>>>may happen, and I found it to be quite moving even before September
>>>11th.  The military now has the right to hold
indefinately any U.S.
>>>citizen found to be engaged in military action against U.S. troops (John
>>>Walker?? right name?), and I honestly don't know what we need to do to
>>>      
>>>
>stop
>  
>
>>>NON-Americans from destroying the civil rights of Americans. 
>>>      
>>>
>Perhaps a
>  
>
>>>culling is in order....
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>So your saying that ONE SOUL
ACT by non-Americans is
>>>>        
>>>>
>enough
>  
>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>to take away
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>some of the freedom of Americans..
>>>>>Does this mean that
"IF" these attacks continue that more
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>freedom will be
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>lost ..
>>>>>Valid Point of View ..
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "sloppy"

>>>>>To: 
>>>>>Sent: Saturday, January 11,
2003 11:42 PM
>>>>>Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>> 
>>>>> >
>>>>We lost that freedom because a group of
"men" took it upon themselves
>>>>>to abuse the system to
achieve their goal of killing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>American civilians.
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> 
>>>>> >
>>>>>That's not the point either ..
>>>>> >
>>>>>Talk about freedom .. what
happened to the freedom of
>>>>>locking your bags ..
>>>>> >
>>>>>When you fly now bags stay unlocked ..
>>>>> >
>>>>>Killing someone doesnt
"Give" freedom either .. so you
>>>>        
>>>>
>just
>  
>
>>>>>completely came
>>>>> >
>>>>>out and said something
that's just way out there ..
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >
>>>>>From: "Sting"

>>>>> >
>>>>>To: 
>>>>> >
>>>>>Sent: Saturday, January 11,
2003 10:11 PM
>>>>> >
>>>>>Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > SOMEONE HAS TO PAY
FOR YOUR FREEDOM!!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > BECAUSE IT"S
NOT FREE !!!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Sting
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >
>>>>> > From:
"<>" 
>>>>> >
>>>>> > To: 
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Sent: Saturday,
January 11, 2003 07:27
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Subject:
[twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > I dont
think that's his point
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > When it
comes down to it you have to be able
>>>>        
>>>>
>to
>  
>
>>>>>handle killing someone
>>>>> >
>>>>> > else
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > just
because it's the political thing to do ..
>>>>>If you cant handle that
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Idea
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > then you
shouldnt be in the military
>>>>        
>>>>
>(Regardless
>  
>
>>>>>of position)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > my .02
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > -----
Original Message -----
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > From:
"pagan" 
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > To:

>>>>> >
>>>>> > > Sent:
Saturday, January 11, 2003 12:14 PM
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > Subject:
[twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > >
You would be surprized to know that the
>>>>>overwhelming majority of
>>>>> >
>>>>>service
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > men and
women never fire a shot outside of
>>>>        
>>>>
>basic
>  
>
>>>>>training or a firing
>>>>> >
>>>>> > range.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > In fact,
there are more opportunities to save
>>>>>lives or make living
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >
conditions more habitable than to take them.
>>>>>Yes, even in an all out war
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > situation.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > > Pagan
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > >
>From a message by prestone about Re:
>>>>        
>>>>
>OT
>  
>
>>>>>Military:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > >
> as long as you don't have a problem
>>>>>killing your fellow human
>>>>> >
>>>>>beings,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > go
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > for it.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > >
> >From a message by sloppy about
>>>>        
>>>>
>OT
>  
>
>>>>>Military:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > >
> > With an anticipated graduation
>>>>>from college in December, I've
>>>>> >
>>>>>been
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > pondering
what to do from this point on in
>>>>        
>>>>
>life.
>  
>
>>>>>I recently hit upon
>>>>> >
>>>>>the
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > idea of
the military, was wondering if people
>>>>>could offer input, horror
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > stories,
advice, warnings, etc. Anything would
>>>>>be appreciated.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
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