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 J>>> -> EH>>FIDO is dying and Klahn is not helping keep it alive.

 J>>> Yeah, Bob stop leaden it down with research and statistics...no
 J>>> right-winger wants THAT.

 BA>> Internet research and phony statistics.  He even admitted
 BA>> that statistics he uses are phony - "but they're the only
 BA>> numbers we have."  Even so, they're still phony.

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 bk>  And if I know the numbers are cooked, and they are cooked
 bk>  *AGAINST* my side, and they still support my side, then
 bk>  that's just an extra point for my side. Remember, Bush was
 bk>  *NOT* cooking the books to say what I wanted them to.

 Revisiting this.

 Many of the stats are not cooked. Not that they don't want to,
 but when they say 400,000 people applied for unemployment that's
 an actual count. That has to be accounted for to balance the
 books. The stats they cook are the ones they can chose how and
 what to count.

 Now that comes down largely to things like unemployment and
 inflation. They can chose who to define as unemployed, and what
 to count toward inflation.

 That can still be worked with when you have the numbers to look
 at. Unemployment is still a count, and you can get the numbers
 for those counted, and for those who need a job but who are not
 counted, etc. I used those long ago when informing Jeff Binkley
 the economy sucked.

 As to inflation, that is slicker as they keep redefining it and
 do not report on what they don't count. For that you have to
 have followed how they have manipulated it over the years. I
 remember Greenspan saying he thought the inflation numbers
 overstated inflation by about 1%. No studies, no analysis, he
 just thought it was so.

 The answer they came up with was not revise the counts to be
 more accurate, but just artificially adjust it. I saw that back
 in the mid '90s.

 Still, you can get a feel for what inflation is running, and
 they can't fake the wholesale prices, and other catagory price
 indexes, that would interfere with business too much. Investors
 and banks would not accept that.

 Then you go to the store and see what is happening. And watch
 your paycheck disappear faster.

 So, yes, it is workable. They can cook the books, but they
 aren't fooling us. They are screwing us, but we know it. And we
 ain't even getting kissed.


BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

... If a conservative says it, it's misstated, misleading, or just plain wrong.
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