RC>> The problem with welfare is it creates a dependency, and one
 RC>> develops a rationale that the reason they got onto it, is reason
 RC>> enough to perpetually stay on it.

 ml> how does it create a dependency?? if one wanted to get off of it, they
 ml> could unless they were on it due to

 RC> The system gets abused, its easier to walk out to the mailbox to
 RC> get the check, than to actually go out and earn one.

but that does not create any kind of dependency... they can still get off
of it if they want to and/or are able to...

 ml> extenuating circumstances...
 ml> medical situations would be one of those... extreme obesity might be
 ml> one medical situation... cronic fatigue syndrome might be another...

 RC> One mans disability is another mans scratch.

only for those that take advantage of the system and play it... i've seen
much too much of it over the years... heck i could have easily done the
same but never did preferring to go without than to "play the
game"... deity knows that i've been without for a long time and i'll
still prefer to go without rather than play some stupid game for the
benefit and/or enjoyment of others... i certainly never look down on those
who DO choose to use the system that is in place... none of us are any
better than the next no matter how hard one works or doesn't or what
programs one participats in or not or even if one is religions or not...
and the stupid political swipes that get slung about are lower than stupid
and in many cases are really nothing more than someone trying to make
themselves feel better by putting others down for some reason or another...

)\/(ark