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echo: holysmoke
to: Ed Hulett
from: Ross Cassell
date: 2007-02-10 19:07:10
subject: Hell?

Hello Ed!

10 Feb 07 18:33, you wrote to me:

 EH>>> The only echo list I saw has Ross listed alone.

 RC>> Then you are looking at something that is not the echolist.

 EH> It was labeled "echolist."

 RC>> In the MOD field is Steve Quarellas name.

 EH> Not the one I saw. It was dated Sep. 2006.

I happen to have several echolist archives on hand as I am distributor of
both mail and files..


                                  ECHOLIST
                  The International Echomail Conference List
                                  ECHO LIST

01 SEPTEMBER 2006                                            ELIST609.TXT

==========================================================================

                               ECHOLIST
                             MASTER REPORT

[.........]

HOLYSMOKE
     Religion Debate Echo - HEATED
          "Holy Wars Come to YOUR Home Computer!"  HOLYSMOKE provides
          a forum for the discussion and argument of religions and
          religious tenets and practices with a jaundiced eye.  HOLYSMOKE
          welcomes all debate on the pros and cons of religious Arguing
          as to whose religion (or lack of one) is best (and why)
          is welcome here so long as it doesn't degrade into mind-numbing
          scripture posting or endless "flame for the sake of flame"
          messages.  This echo also serves as a "dumping ground" for
          the dross whose messages are inappropriate in other religious
          or non-religious echos. "Give me your tired, your poor,
          your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched
          refuse of your teeming shore.  Send these, the homeless,
          tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
          Contact Gateway sysop regarding Internet feeds.  Moderator
          permission required for gating to other networks, and echomail
          policies do not apply here.
          Status: Active
     Origin:       1:3830/9                          Group: FIDO
     Distribution: ALL BACKBONES
     Gateways:
     Language:     ENGLISH
     # Nodes: N/A          Volume: N/A          Rules:
     Flags: 
     Notes: /REA
     Moderators:   Steve Quarrella, 1:3830/9
                   Ross Cassell, 1:123/500, fidonet{at}burntmail.com
                   Bob Seaborn, 1:140/1
     Last changed: 15-Aug-2006 by Ross Cassell, 1:123/500,fidonet{at}burntmail.com

[..........]


I can retrieve the same info from either the August or October 2006
echolists if you want?

 RC>> Steve was all set to totally pull the plug on Fidonet until some
 RC>> games with another echo was played by another hub sysop, whose
 RC>> actions were condoned and egged on by people you and I both know.

 EH> And this is supposed to mean what to me?

Steve could have been history, had it not been for the actions of a few,
whom were out to get Dan Ceppa. E-mail me if you want the history, you
werent involved with the mess.

 RC>> However, something was said to Wayne about his comments, but Oleg
 RC>> also played a part in handing out insults to Wayne, so just
 RC>> because Wayne made a comment about Olegs mother, Oleg also cast
 RC>> negative aspersions to Wayne.

 EH> It was started be Wayne. Oleg didn't start using abusive language
 EH> until the three stooges started calling him names and then Wayne made
 EH> the comment about Oleg's mother and the thread went down from there.

This echo has always been filled with harsh language, in its heyday, it
would make "MATZDOBRE" and even the geniune "FLAME"
echo look tame by comparison, the fact is, no matter who started it, the
other was as guilty as the instigator by continuing it.

 EH> This echo had been dead for months until Oleg made one post and
 EH> predictalby Otto, Wayne, and Danny start in on him.

and this is always what happens in this echo, the people you mention hate
religion with the deepest of passions and will gang up on anyone whom
doesnt speak as negatively about religion as they do.

==
Ross
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