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from: Cherokee
date: 2003-01-13 14:21:10
subject: Re: OT Military

No sticking your toes in Sanders, either jump in our stay the heck out.

What facts did I getr wrong?



--- col sanders  wrote:
> 
> I would jump in but I don' have time today , both of you can rest 
> assures the answer is somewhere between the two of you.  You both
> seem 
> to represent opposite sides but are unwilling to agree on the
> *facts*. 
>  If you cannot do that much, you will never have agreement.
> 
> Col Sanders
> 
> Cherokee wrote:
> 
> >--- sloppy  wrote:
> > 
> >  
> >
> >>Israeli abuse of Palestinans? Israeli men aren't strapping
> themselves
> >>    
> >>
> >full of explosives and shooting their way into Palestinan
> settlements.
> >
> >No, but Israeli soldiers have killed hundreds of innocent
> Palestinians,
> >in addition to lots of guilty ones. The Israeli Army occupies
> >Palestinian villages and refuge camps, and supports colonization
> (heh,
> >had to stick a TW term in here) of land that does not rightfully
> belong
> >to Israel.  Who do you think lived in Israel before 1948?  It wasn't
> >the Jews. 
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >>We should stand by Israel because they have been dealing with
> >>    
> >>
> >terrorist attacks for years, and maybe, just maybe if the Arab world
> >(besides Egypt and Jordan) would accept the right of Israel to
> exist,
> >steps could be made to end the violence.
> >
> >Israel's policies towards the Arabs have brought on the terrorist
> >attacks, just as US policy in the Middle East brought on Sep 11. 
> I'm
> >not saying terrorism is justified, far from it.  But just because
> >someone is attacked by a terrorist does not mean they are right and
> >that we should support their policies. What do you think would make
> the
> >rest of the Arab world recognize Israel's right to exist?  And why
> do
> >you think the Israelis should have the right to exist but the
> >Palestinians should not?
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >>I personally believe however that there can never be peace in the
> >>    
> >>
> >Middle East until "Palestinans" are gone. And why are they called
> >Palestinans by everyone? They are just Arabs that happen to be
> living
> >in that region of the Middle East.
> >
> >So your answer is genocide of the Palestinian people?  They are
> called
> >Palestinians because they live in Palestine, just like we are called
> >Americans because we live in America. According to your logic, most
> >Americans are just Europeans that happen to be living in America. 
> We
> >should just be called Europeans, and whoever is strong enough to
> push
> >us around and occupy our territory is justified in doing so.
> >
> >
> >  
> >

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