Neither Waco nor Ruby Ridge were handled appropriately, but both of
those events occurred before that USA Patriot act, so I don't see how
they apply to your argument. And in both cases, serious violations of
the law transpired before the "illegal invasions".

You call me naive, I call you paranoid.  Do I care if the federal
government wants to wiretap my house and read my email?  Not a bit, let
them knock themselves out. If in exchange, I am better protected from
some lunatic who plans to blow up my building, then that is more than a
fair trade.

If at some point down the line someone tries to use some of that
"intelligence" against me, let them try, I have done nothing wrong.

One of our biggest problems is our lack border security and weak
immigration controls.  The Soviet Union had absolutely NO trouble with
illegal immigrants because everyone knew they would be shot if they
were caught in the USSR illegally.

Do I care about the rights of some illegal Arab immigrant that has been
arrested and held indefinitely?  Not at all, These people are not U.S.
Citizens, they are not protected by our Constitution.  They "invaded"
our country and should be executed. 

--- col sanders  wrote:
> 
> It really goes beyond that, to things like Waco and Ruby Ridge,
> neither 
> of which was a legal invasion, at least at the very beginning.  But
> by 
> your comments I do think you are being naive.  I guess there really
> is 
> no argument beyond that...
> 
> Cherokee wrote:
> 
> >I don't think we are in any danger of seeing Joe McCarthy the
> sequel. 
> >If I am wronged by someone in a position of power, I have adequate
> >recourse to defend myself.
> >
> >My answer to your fear of someone extorting you by using something
> >ambarrassing...   don't do anything to be embarrassed about.
> >
> >If you already have, let them reveal it rather than allow yourself
> to
> >be blackmailed.  If you run for Governor, your deep dark secrets are
> >sure to be exposed. :)
> >
> >--- col sanders  wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Well, I have been pulled over for having pro-gun bumper stickers,
> and
> >>
> >>then interrogates on the side of the road by 3 cruiser's worth of
> >>State 
> >>Troopers.   All of this because of my bumper stickers.  I was not
> >>even 
> >>given a ticket.  Add to the loss of privacy, the databases they are
> 
> >>compiling, (read about the return of John Tower to the pentagon and
> >>his 
> >>database project) and you have the potential for abuse that dwarfs
> >>what 
> >>Hoover was acused of.  I go to Church, I attend rallies (like the
> one
> >>on 
> >>Wednesday) and have entertained the idea of running for Governor or
> >>some 
> >>other state position.  I am ambitious and hope to do well 
> >>professionally.  While not alive then, I have read about Mcarthy
> and
> >>the 
> >>Red scare, I read about the lives he ruined.  I am familiar with
> the 
> >>allegtions about Hoover and his own extortion using embarassing
> info 
> >>about people to his own ends.  I can find ALOT to be afraid of, and
> >>it 
> >>tends to be a result of people ignoring the bill of rights and
> >>passing 
> >>laws that give the government powers that would not have even
> helped 
> >>them stop any terrorist attacks in the first place.  You may
> naively 
> >>believe that every person in power will both be on your side, and
> >>also 
> >>be so good as to not misuse their power.  Look at history, look at
> >>the 
> >>whole reason for the Bill of Rights in the first place.
> >>
> >>Col Sanders
> >>
> >>Cherokee wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Just read that article.  Not a single line concerns me in the
> least.
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>What specifically are YOU afraid of that inhibits your personal
> >>>freedoms?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>--- col sanders  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>Here are some specifics on the Patriot Act  if you really are
> >>>>interested...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
>
>>http://www.eff.org/Privacy/Surveillance/Terrorism_militias/20011031_eff_usa_p
atriot_analysis.html
> >>    
> >>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>col sanders wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>My concerns are that while I don't necessarily fear anything
> from
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>the 
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>current administration, weakening the Bill of
Rights for future 
> >>>>>administrations is quite dangerous, if for example we got
> another 
> >>>>>Clinton type in office, imagine the danger to
those of  us that
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>are
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>not 
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>secularly mainstream.  The USA Patriot act is bad,
ignoring due
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>process 
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>is bad, the DMCA is bad.   I am still hoping they
will have the
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>balls to 
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>reverse the bad law the first Bush signed
regarding "assault
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>weapons". 
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>They also need to reopen the streets in DC, the great Coward
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>(Clinton) 
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>should be the last coward, let DC return to pre-Clinton
> normalcy.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Regarding the need to fight a war, let me ask you
this, do you
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>really 
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>believe that the US can do ANYTHING that will met
by the radical
> 
> >>>>>muslim/arab terrorist groups backing off?  Is that
even possible
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>at
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>this 
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>point?  I don't believe so...  Maybe you do...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Cherokee wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Agreed, people don't HAVE to be searched, it
is voluntary (only
> >>>>>>compulsory if you wish to fly on an airliner). 
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that
we need to fight
> a
> >>>>>>       
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>>>war,
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>>though it probably will come to that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I don't see why you are frightened by the
President's "recent
> >>>>>>       
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>>>record on
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>>liberty".  What are you afraid of (specifically)?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>--- col sanders  wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>       
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>We can get into a discussion of how it all
started when the
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>
> >>great 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>>>Communist FDR blackmailed the supreme
court to misinterpret
> the
> >>>>>>>Commerce 
> >>>>>>>Clause, and how that led to the regulation
of EVERYTHING
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>
> >>including
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>airlines and the great loss of freedoms we
enjoy today... But
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>
> >>why 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>>>over-complicate things.  The airlines are
private industry. 
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>
> >>They
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>are
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>regulated, as is EVERYTHING these days. 
Americans are STUPID
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>
> >>and
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>>>need 
> >>>>>>>to be protected from themselves (not my
opinion, the opinion
> of
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>thsoe
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>in 
> >>>>>>>power).  People don't *have to be
searched* they can ride
> amtrak
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>if
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>they 
> >>>>>>>object so much (for foreigners, thats the
train).  Anyway, let
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>
> >>not
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>confuse things, do we need to fight a war
in the middle east,
> >>>>>>>probably. 
> >>>>>>>Is the Bush Admin's recent record on
liberty frightening, yes.
> 
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>Are
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>the 
> >>>>>>>two related, no.  
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Cherokee wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>That is oversimplified.  It is not the
airlines mandating the
> >>>>>>>>   
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>      
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>                
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>searches.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>In fact, the airlines are no longer
able to employ their own
> >>>>>>>>   
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>      
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>                
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>security
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>personnel.  The Transportation
Security Administration (TSA)
> is
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>                
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>the
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>   
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>      
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>                
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>new
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>government agency handling airport
security, and we DO in
> fact
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>                
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>have
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>less freedom when flying than we used to.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Even so, I say big deal. They are
working to protect planes
> and
> >>>>>>>>passengers from terrorism. They aren't
digging through your
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>                
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>luggage
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>   
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>      
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>                
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>to
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>try to find out if you cheated on your taxes.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>--- col sanders
 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>   
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>      
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>                
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Being able to lock your bags on an
airplan has nothing to do
> >>>>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                  
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>with 
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>freedom.  Airlines are a private
company, and as such they
> >>>>>>>>>                  
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>have
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                  
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>the
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>right to inspect their customers
on their private property.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>        
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                  
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>So your saying that ONE SOUL
ACT by non-Americans is enough
> >>>>>>>>>>                    
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>to
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>          
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>                    
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>take
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>  
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>          
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>                    
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>away
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>        
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                  
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>some of the freedom of Americans..
> >>>>>>>>>>Does this mean that
"IF" these attacks continue that more
> >>>>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>                    
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>freedom
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>  
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>          
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>                    
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>will be
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>        
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                  
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>lost ..
> >>>>>>>>>>Valid Point of View ..
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>>>>>From: "sloppy"

> >>>>>>>>>>To: 
> >>>>>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, January 11,
2003 11:42 PM
> >>>>>>>>>>Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>  
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>          
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>                    
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>We lost that
freedom because a group of "men" took it
> >>>>>>>>>>>                      
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>upon
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>    
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>            
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                      
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>themselves
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>        
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                  
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>    
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>            
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                      
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>to abuse the system to achieve
their goal of killing
> American
> >>>>>>>>>>  
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>          
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>                    
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>civilians.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>        
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                  
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>  
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>          
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>                    
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>That's
not the point either ..
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Talk
about freedom .. what happened to the
> >>>>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                      
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>freedom
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>    
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>            
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                      
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>of
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>        
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                  
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>    
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>            
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                      
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>locking your bags ..
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>  
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>          
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>                    
> >>>>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>When
you fly now bags stay unlocked ..
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Killing
someone doesnt "Give" freedom
> either
> >>>>>>>>>>>                      
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>..
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                      
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>so
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>    
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>            
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                      
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>you just
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>        
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                  
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>    
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>            
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                      
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>completely came
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>  
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>          
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>                    
> >>>>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>out
and said something that's just way out
> >>>>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                      
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>there
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>            
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                      
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>..
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>-----
Original Message -----
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>From:
"Sting" 
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>To:

>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent:
Saturday, January 11, 2003 10:11 PM
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject:
[twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> SOMEONE HAS TO PAY FOR YOUR FREEDOM!!
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> BECAUSE IT"S NOT FREE !!!
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Sting
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> From: "<>"
> >>>>>>>>>>>    
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>            
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                      
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>        
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                  
> >>>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> To: 
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003
> 07:27
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > I dont think that's his point
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > When it comes down to it you
> have
> >>>>>>>>>>>                      
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>to
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                      
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>be
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>    
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>            
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                      
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>able to
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>        
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                  
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>    
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>            
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                      
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>handle killing someone
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>  
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>          
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>                    
> >>>>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> else
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > just because it's the political
> >>>>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                      
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>thing
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>            
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                      
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>to
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>    
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>            
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                      
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>do ..
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>        
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                  
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>    
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>            
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                      
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>If you cant handle that
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>  
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>          
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>                    
> >>>>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Idea
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > then you shouldnt be in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>                      
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>military
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>    
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>            
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                      
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>(Regardless
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>        
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                  
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>    
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>            
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>                      
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>of position)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>  
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>          
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>                    
> >>>>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > my .02
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > ----- Original Message -----
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > From: "pagan"
> >>>>>>>>>>>                      
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>
> >>    
> >>
>
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