Hello Daniel!

05 Jan 08 22:16, you wrote to me:

 >> The very thought of them existing makes you shiver in fear.

 DP> No it doesn't.  It does make me wonder how anyone could be so
 DP> gullible.

The same can be easily said for you or anyone else.

If you are allowed to believe as you do, arent others..

The difference when it comes to religion or similiar belief is, the holy
rollers have a unswerving belief or rather faith in what they believe.

You for example cling to the scientific portion of the equation, in many
ways some could look at you and say, he believes everything a scientist
tells him.

I dont think the fundies are in your face as often as you infer.

 >> Not specifically an exclusive issue of the religious.

 DP> There's absolutely no basis for refusing same sex marriages except
 DP> with regard to religion and the homophobia it tends to evoke.  If you
 DP> have evidence that one relationship is better than another, please
 DP> present it.

Ah another one of your stereotypes.

 >> Do you agree with some state laws that when a pregnant women gets
 >> murdered that sometimes the accusd gets charged with 2 counts of
 >> murder?

 DP> No, I don't.

What if the pregnancy was at a stage in which the baby could have survived
outside of the womb?

I agree with those laws and believe they should at minimum be applicable if
the victim was in the 6th or 7th month of pregnancy or later.

Oh wait, you believe in a murderers right to involuntarily cause an abortion?

 >> I think you have christianity on the brain.

 DP> No, that's just been the topic at hand.

But you are blaming everything on them, surprisingly even Sauer had to
correct you on a point or two.

 >> As long as you get in their face, they shall get in yours.

 DP> Except I don't get in their face until they've gotten in mine.  I'd
 DP> much rather them leave me alone.

How many get up in your face. Alot of what you advocate is more proactive
than reactive, stay out of their face!

 >> I think votes is the ultimate objective to obtaining office, money
 >> is just a tool to achieve that end.

 DP> I agree.

Would you then agree that the Democrats target voting blocks as do the GOP?

 DP> Homosexuality exists throughout nature and has been a part of human
 DP> civilization for as long as we can tell.

and to keepit going, we must redefine marriage, why wasnt it redefined centuries ago?

 >> As far as I know, the only men in the sky are onboard the
 >> International Space Station?

 DP> They're not invisible.

I cant see them from the ground during the day.

 >> Yes, lets have the religious bullshit in marriage and the homo shit
 >> in civil unions.

 DP> Again, separate but equal.

Good!


 >> Good!
 >> They can get a civil union license.

 DP> Separate but equal, yet again.  It's never equal.

Yes it is the homos can insure each other and will shit to the other.

 >> Let them all live in Vermont and New Hampshire with the other nutz.

 DP> Nutz?  I see.  I guess I already knew that about you, though.

Notice how the left wing strongholds come up with the stupidest of laws,
see the post about NJ I made yesterday.

 >> Sorry but their sexual status already places them in a separate
 >> class, by very definition alone. Unless you want sexual preference
 >> removed from a protected status in the eyes of the law, especially
 >> laws regarding employment and discrimination.

 DP> Only a handful of states protect against discrimination because of
 DP> sexual preference.  Interestingly enough, religion is protected
 DP> federally.

Thats to prevent all types of discrimination, like preventing Christians
from discriminating against Jews for example? Would you prefer otherwise?

The same law would also prevent an Internet Service Provider from
discriminating against you, should you seek employment from or are employed
by one.

See Civil Rights Act Of 1964.

Btw, my employer has a policy against sexual preference discrimination.

The Civil Right Act of 1963, The equal pay act of 1967, the age
discrimination act of 1967, the Americans with disabilities act of 1990,
thh rehabilitation act of 1973 and another civil rights act of 1991.
covered alot of ground, the meat of the legislation as we know it today
come from the acts passed in the 1960's, faggots and lesbo's werent at the
forefront of the national phyche then.

But you know something, if you arent required to accept the religion of
another, why are others required to accept homesexuality?

 >> In fact sexual preference is more of a separate class now than race
 >> is.

 DP> Unfortunately, it is.  Sad, isn't it?

Nope, it isnt sad, its just a cold hard fact.

Regardless of how long it has existed, the thought of homosexuality revolts
people, and such revulsion isnt just rooted in religion.

You tend to blame religious people because they happen to screech the
loudest about it, that doesnt mean the entire portion of those whom detest
it are all religious people.

I have a friend whom lives in Virginia, this was a few years ago, he took
his 8 year old son (age at the time) to a public park to toss a ball around
and play, when they arrived, they noticed 2 men under a tree sucking face.
He had a hard time explaining this to his son, cant say I blame him for the
connundrum, since he would never dream of sucking face with his wife in
front of his son. Now there is a time and place for everything and some
things should stay in the bedroom. However had the couple been a man and a
woman, there would have been alot less to explain. We see different sex
couples giving each other kisses (pecks) on the cheeks or lips all the
time, hand holding, hugging, just goto the shopping mall for instance.

Alot of people dont stomach the same sex thing, nor do they have to.

 >> You cannot equate homesexuality to heterosexuality, one cant
 >> procreate.

 DP> Not all heterosexuals can procreate, and on top of that, not all of
 DP> them choose to.  Should they be denied coverage too, because they're
 DP> not breeding for the good of the union?

Doesnt change my point, they are still in their own class.

 >> Therefore separate but equal is the best you are going to get.

 DP> It's bullshit and you know it, but, lots easier to let it support your
 DP> views when the government sanctions the discrimination.

Remember Chicken Little?

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