| TIP: Click on subject to list as thread! | ANSI |
| echo: | |
|---|---|
| to: | |
| from: | |
| date: | |
| subject: | Eternal Damnation & 2/2 |
>>> Continued from previous message JS>Lee, if the concept of "Eternal Damnation" is Satanic, as you claim, JS>are you thus suggesting that Jesus is Satanic; after all, He clearly JS>used the phrase in that verse. It's right there before your very JS>eyes. False teaching, or speaking falsely in Jesus' name, is Satanic. The phrase has nothing to do with hell or how long hell lasts, but rather about allegiance. JS>So, what does "eternal" mean in that verse? According to the Greek lexicon, JS>it is derived from the word "aionios", which it defines as the following: JS>1)without beginning and end, that which always has been and always will be JS>2)without beginning JS>3)without end, never to cease, everlasting Anything that has a beginning has a definite end. Even if it is a rock. As such, nothing lasts forever. Not hell. Not earth. Not heaven. Not any creation by man or by God. JS>Putting the meanings of those two words together, we arrive at the JS>conclusion that "Eternal Damnation" means a judgment, a condemnation, JS>a sentence, which stands forever, and cannot ever be changed. It is a JS>judgment and sentence which will never cease. Jesus said all will be forgiven. All sins. Not some or most. ALL. Of course, first one has to repent in order to be forgiven. Ask, and you shall receive. Knock, and the door will be opened. JS>As we read in the Old Testament: JS>". . . For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven." JS>Psalms 119:89, KJV JS>"I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put JS>to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear JS>before him." JS>Ecclesiastes 3:14, KJV JS>So when God passes a judgment or sentence, that's it! There is no changing JS>it. It stands forever, and that is exactly what "Eternal Damnation" is. "God is love." 1 John 4:8, 16 Jesus came into this world so that all our sins may be forgiven. Not just some or many, but all. That is the God of love Jesus preached. And that is exactly what Mark 3:29 is saying, when read in proper context. JS>So based on the definitions provided by the Greek lexicon, as well as the JS>previous verses, and what Jesus clearly taught in Mark 3:29, the concept of JS>"Eternal Damnation" is in fact a very Scriptural doctrine, which for some JS>strange reason, you, Lee, deny...and that is why I stated that you are JS>clearly preaching a false doctrine. The very Bible is a witness against what JS>you are saying. Jesus was preaching a false doctrine? I don't think so... JS>The idea of God's judgments and sentences, (or damnation), being JS>everlasting, eternal, and unchangeable, is likewise confirmed in the Book of JS>Daniel. Consider what the Lord had Daniel write: JS>"And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to JS>everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." JS>Daniel 12:2, KJV JS>It looks to me like Daniel and Jesus are BOTH saying the same thing, Lee. JS>Some people will be held in contempt, and abhorred for all of eternity, or JS>do you deny the Scriptures? Like I said, nobody goes to hell. The reward is everlasting life. The punishment is total nothingness. Which is not really punishment, but rather the lack of a reward. :) JS>The Bible is the Authoritative Source for what we believe as Christians. It JS>protects us from going astray in our understanding, and even then, we still JS>don't always get things right, because we are all, after all, only human. JS>But that is why the Bible is the center piece of this echo, and NOT the JS>works written by other men. We Christians should use the Bible just as a JS>lawyer would use a legal document, or a doctor would refer to a medical JS>journal, or a politician might refer to a historical document. JS>So what I am saying is basically this: if anyone doesn't agree with my point JS>of view, that is your right; but if you really wish to convince me of your JS>view, then you need to do it by pointing me directly to verses in the Bible. JS>You need to validate your position from the Scriptures. Period. I reckon this old heretic will not be getting the same reward as found in Jeff's Bible. :) --Lee * SLMR 2.1a * Buon Natale - Merry Christmas To You --- SBBSecho 2.12-Win32* Origin: SBBS Orillia - Telnet://bbsorillia.com 1:229/619 (1:229/619) SEEN-BY: 10/1 3 11/331 34/999 53/558 120/228 123/500 128/2 140/1 222/2 226/0 SEEN-BY: 236/150 249/303 250/306 261/20 38 100 1381 1404 1406 1418 266/1413 SEEN-BY: 280/1027 320/119 396/45 633/260 267 285 712/848 800/432 801/161 189 SEEN-BY: 2222/700 2320/100 105 200 2905/0 @PATH: 229/619 426 123/500 261/38 633/260 267 |
|
| SOURCE: echomail via fidonet.ozzmosis.com | |
Email questions or comments to sysop@ipingthereforeiam.com
All parts of this website painstakingly hand-crafted in the U.S.A.!
IPTIA BBS/MUD/Terminal/Game Server List, © 2025 IPTIA Consulting™.