Hello Jeff,

JS>I honestly don't know how Lee is going to respond to my last warning
JS>to him to settle down, but for the sake of others who may be reading
JS>this thread, following are my Scriptural responses to what Lee has
JS>stated. You be the judge.

"Judge not, lest ye be judged." - Jesus H. Christ

JS>My position is this: People can disagree with my views all they want;
JS>after all, I am only human, and I could be wrong.

"I could be wrong, but I know I'm not." - Lunatic Fringe

JS>I have never claimed to be infallible like the Roman Catholic pope
JS>claims. Only a fool would adopt such a position. Having said that, I
JS>urge all of you to be careful that you don't disagree with what is
JS>plainly stated in God's Word. Once God states it, that's it; and He
JS>is very clear regarding quite a few issues in His Word.

Not even the RCC has an official interpretation of Scripture.
There are a wide variety of interpretations, some more correct
than others.  Nobody has seen the Face of God.  None who have
lived to tell about it, anyway.  Just because somebody says
his/her own interpretation of Scripture is the absolute Word
of God does not make it so.

JS>But getting to Lee's remarks...

>LL>Jesus never taught that hell is forever.

JS>Lee, nowhere in my previous post did I say, or even suggest that hell is
JS>forever. You clearly made an erroneous assumption, and now you are running
JS>with it, without even knowing what I actually believe regarding this issue.

You do realize nobody goes to hell.  Really.  It says so in the Bible.
Jesus even said so Himself.  Many times.

>LL>Hell will not be tolerated by God, as He will put an end to hell.

JS>Again, nowhere in my previous message did I ever state that hell is forever.
JS>The issue was not even the nature of hell; it was your false claim, Lee,
JS>that Jesus did not preach "Eternal Damnation", which He
most certainly did.

When a person dies, he/she is dead and in the ground.  Except for those
who are alive in Christ.

JS>Lee, if you take the time to read my September 1997 article entitled "Hell
JS>And The Lake Of Fire", you will discover that for many years I have been
JS>teaching that hell will one day be destroyed.

I quoted six verses.  And three of those verses were cited by you.
It was only after I cited those six verses that you chose to take the
position that hell is not forever.  However, that is not the point.
You still got it all wrong.  God is love, not hate.  And it is that
message of love that Jesus preached.  Not hate or hatred.

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JS>As I said a moment ago. I have long taught that someday, hell will be
JS>destroyed. One verse which I share in the article to prove this point
JS>is the following:
JS>"And death and Hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second
JS>death."
JS>Revelation 20:14, KJV
JS>Wait a minute! If hell is a fiery place of torment, how can it be cast into
JS>the Lake of Fire? Is it possible that hell and the Lake of Fire don't always
JS>mean the same thing in the Bible? That is precisely one of the points that I
JS>make in the article. Please read it if you wish to gain a better insight
JS>regarding this issue. Thanks!

You still miss the point.  Nobody goes to hell.  Nobody.  It is a
place set aside for angels.  Fallen angels, in particular.  And that
place will not last forever.  Neither will those fallen angels.

>LL>He did not.  The concept of Eternal Damnation is Satanic. The God that
>LL>Jesus spoke of is one of Love and Mercy.

JS>Lee, the English word "damnation" is used eleven times in
the Authorized
JS>King James Bible, and in fact, only in the New Testament. I honestly don't
JS>know how you interpret the word, but in the original Greek, two words are
JS>used. These are "krima" and "krisis", both of
which mean judgment, a
JS>sentence or condemnation. In short, it means to have a sentence passed upon
JS>oneself by a judge; in this case, God or Jesus Christ being that Judge.

JS>In discussing the sin of blasphemy against the Holy Ghost, Jesus had
JS>this to say:
JS>"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never
forgiveness,
JS>but is in danger of eternal damnation:"
JS>Mark 3:29, KJV

The phrase "eternal damnation" is found once, and only once, and
then only in the KJV.  The phrase means "eternal sin", and is about
allegiance to Jesus.  Those who claim allegiance to Jesus and speak
falsely in His name are in effect condemning themselves.  The Holy
Spirit always gives truthful testimony to Jesus.  With that in mind,
it is easy to understand the passage.  Especially when taken in
its proper context.  The phrase has nothing to do with hell or how
long hell lasts.

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