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echo: dbridge
to: Nick Andre
from: Nicholas Boel
date: 2017-01-09 08:20:14
subject: ET phone home

Hello Nick,

On Sun Jan 08 2017 22:13:10, Nick Andre wrote to Nicholas Boel:

 NA> I may very well be misunderstanding; and I'm not pointing fingers,
 NA> ever, at Mystic. I'm a fan of that software, but I did somewhat-cringe
 NA> when I saw the progress on its mailer/tosser or whatever that MIS
 NA> module is, because James is venturing into Fido-standards territory
 NA> which has a lot of minefields. As I posted before; it would not
 NA> surprise me if that ends up being a de-motivational factor for him.
 NA> Just the constant complaints about the Fido stuff, if that makes
 NA> sense.

It makes perfect sense. It's one thing when you're working on something in
a hobby-related environment for fun. But when it becomes a chore due to
people telling him how it was, is, and always should be - the fun slips
away rapidly.

 NA> DR is chat originating from my system, [D]ark[R]ealms, but really it
 NA> just exists as my own echo. No rules whatsoever, aliases/anonymous
 NA> messages allowed.

I do remember you mentioning that now.

 NA> I more or less created that echo as a total free-for-all; an
 NA> alternative to the Fn_sysop/Fido-Sysop typical nonsense.

I'll make sure to add it when I get a chance to dive into my config next.

 NB>> I haven't added many new echos to my system (maybe besides
 NB>> Fidonet's UTF-8 echo) in quite some time. In any case, I've
 NB>> actually been pondering removin bunch, rather than adding more. :)

 NA> I know! How many Linux echoes do we really need?

Well, one for every friggin distribution out there, DUH! :)

RA support echos and OS2 echos too. Along with the various technical areas
of software is not even being used anymore (TUB and TORNADO come to mind
right off the top of my head, but I'm sure there are plenty others)
Seriously, there's like 5+ of each of them and they're lucky to get one
post a month besides the moderator's robot postings. Yet nobody has any
kind of urge whatsoever to knock these down and combine them into one
message base that could possibly get 2 posts per month instead of that
lonely one.

At one point it must have just became a chest pounding thing to show how
many echos you moderated and how many you have collected over the years,
and it doesn't seem like anyone ever wanted to give up that feeling. Now we
have a wasteland of a bunch of dead echos and consolidation is definitely
not something people want to come to terms with until /maybe/ the day one
realizes the only one seeing the robot postings are themselves. Even then
there's a good chance it won't be realized.

Regards,
Nick

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