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to: Lee Lofaso
from: Jeff Snyder
date: 2009-04-16 01:54:00
subject: Re: Christians And Jews

LL> Jews are Jews. Christians are Christians. Muslims are Muslims.

Your point being what?

LL> If Jews were Christians, they would not be Jews. If Muslims were
LL> Christians, they would not be Muslims. Starting to get the picture?

No, not really. Other than stating the obvious, I see nothing new in your
words.

LL> Jesus was both human and divine.

Agreed. Which is also why He is the FirstFruits of a new race of beings, and
why we will one day follow in His footsteps, if we believe.

LL> To say Jesus was strictly human would be heretical. To say Jesus was
LL> strictly divine would be heretical. But only if one is a Christian.

And therein lies the problem. To reject BOTH Jesus' human and Divine nature
is really to contradict the Scriptures. That is why the Muslims and Jews are
both deceived. They may accept Him as a man, and a great Teacher and
Prophet, but that is as far as it goes with them. Neither have the faith to
go the full mile.

LL> My late aunt was a "true Bible-believing Christian" who
referred to God
LL> as Allah.  In fact, she prayed to Allah.  Every day.  Probably went to
LL> heaven.  Can't say for sure, since she had a nasty habit of cheating at
LL> cards.  But there is always hope.

Lee, you stated previously "So do many Christians." The fact that one
person, your deceased aunt, referred to God as Allah, by no means validates
your comment. One person is not "many Christians" Again, I don't
know of any
dedicated, Bible-believing Christians who refer to God as Allah on a regular
basis, as your aunt apparently did.

LL> Did anybody ever tell you that Jesus was a Palestinian? Well, it's true.
LL> His mother was also a Palestinian.  And his father.  Well, stepfather.
LL> Along with all the Apostles. And pretty much everybody he met.  Except
LL> for a few Roman soldiers and the like.

Lee, now you are starting to get silly...or legalistic...or both.

Maybe out of hatred and spite for the Jews, the Romans called conquered
Israel "Palaestina" -- from "Philistia", which means
"the land of the
Philistines" -- but neither Jesus, nor His parents, were Palestinian in the
true sense of the word. As I point out in my articles, the Palestinians are
actually the descendants of the Philistines, who, as you know, were the very
enemies of the Israelite nation.

Biologically speaking, Jesus was Jewish -- of the tribe of Judah -- which is
why the Book of Revelation calls Him "the lion of the tribe of Judah":

"And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the
tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to
loose the seven seals thereof."
Revelation 5:5, KJV

In fact, as you may also know, thousands of years earlier, Jacob gave a
wonderful prophecy in which he stated that the King of Kings would descend
from the tribe of Judah when he said on his death bed:

"Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be in the
neck of thine enemies; thy fatherŐs children shall bow down before thee.
Judah is a lionŐs whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped
down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up? THE
SCEPTRE SHALL NOT DEPART FROM JUDAH, NOR A LAWGIVER FROM BETWEEN HIS FEET,
UNTIL SHILOH COME; AND UNTO HIM SHALL THE GATHERING OF THE PEOPLE BE.
Binding his foal unto the vine, and his assŐs colt unto the choice vine; he
washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes: His
eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk."
Genesis 49:8-12, KJV

Notice the last part in capital letters. As I shared in a previous post,
Jesus said:

"And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me."
John 12:32, KJV

So that is clearly a fulfilled prophecy, thousands of years old.

LL> You reject God the Father?  What heresy!  :)

Lee, I am more than willing to continue in dialog with you, but please keep
the silliness to a minimum. Thanks!


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