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to: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
from: John W. Kennedy
date: 2008-01-06 17:30:16
subject: Re: Babylon 5`s near destruction in War Without End

Mel wrote:
> Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
>> Previously on rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated, John W. Kennedy said:
>>> But we /know/ that Morden was involved with the Clark government at a
>>> high level. And he must have dangled some pretty big carrots to get the
>>> xenophobic Clark to cooperate at all.

>> We know from the message that Ivanova intercepted via The Great Machine
>> that Morden was in direct contact with Clark at least up through the
>> destruction of EF1.  But there is no evidence one way or the other that
>> Clark knew who Morden was working for.  So for all we know, Clark
>> assumed that Morden was just a Human representing other Humans who
>> wanted Clark as power, who had the means and willingness to,
>> essentially, commit mass murder to facilitate that.

> Didn't JMS at one point emphatically state that the voice Ivanova heard 
> was *not* Morden?

A) Not that I can recall (and I think I would).

B) In "Ship of Tears", Bester is quite explicit about both a
Shadows/Clarke connection and Shadows infiltrating the Psi Corps.
Obviously, Bester is not much to be trusted, but his actions are all in
keeping with these things being true.
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