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Hello Cindy,

 -=> Quoting Cindy Haglund to Peter Coggon <=-

 CH> We're all confused about how a dog 'thinks' because we're thinking in
 CH> the way WE think see... which is only natural. :)  For us. What the
 CH> dog is remembering is the scent.

 CH> If A dog is beaten, it will remember the sent of the abuser. If the
 CH> dog smells that same scent on someone else it may well react the same
 CH> way he/she did toward the abuser especially if the voices and
 CH> appearance are similar. (male/female for example).

  Sorry, I fail to see where a sleeping dog via remembering scent starts
to run with his feet and howl with joy , and next he can be there his
lips moving, and showing teeth and growling and alarmed.

All scents in the area where he has his private area, are not present
and certainly not the lad that hit him with a rock...as that is sight.
He reacted on sighting this lad, and remembered him.   Air flow that
day was the other way ...all sight.

 CH> We all project. When we took our dogs to Kennel Kare last July they
 CH> acted OVERJOYED (!) by golly .. they remembered all the scents. What
 CH> they "forgot" though is that we'd be leaving them there
fora  week. Of
 CH> course they're always even a happier when we come back for them.
 CH> ((They don't really forget' because they have no memory of being left
 CH> before but they DO remember the scents of the place )

Nope.  He knew he was going to be left.   Didn't do it again and he
didn't come home with kennel cough and fleas.

 CH> I'm assured that the dog does not lay around dwelling on things and
 CH> missing things. The dog is in the here and now. This is hard for us
 CH> because we're mostly living in the past and hoping for the future all
 CH> the time. Dog's don't do that. Frankly I think their way is better.

  Well I can not say I am assured.   The dog is a pack animal and they
did follow the herd doing cleanup and they do live in the NOW, thats
for sure.

 CH> Plus while they don't recall the details of the past, they do remember
 CH> the lessons. Something humans have a lot of trouble with.
 CH> Humans dwell on the details so much they don't' even NOTICe E the
 CH> lessons. Which is why past mistakes keeps being repeated.

  I dog learns for his survival.   Lessons are taught and learnt.
These lessons are handed down, and are taught by example.

 CH> Ears back and watchful (is his tail down or up?) is fear if the tail
 CH> is down. If the tail is up the ears would be perked. Tail down with
 CH> alert ears is assertive calm. Ears back with tail up is submissive
 CH> calm (relaxed which is how they prefer to be and we prefer them to
 CH> be.) .

  Rusty was abused, so he has no tail.    It is his eyes and ears
and just his stance I look at to figure out what is up.

 CH> They do seem to forgive don't they? But actually just as with small
 CH> children they don't remember. That's why when we correct a behavior
 CH> with a physical touch (as mother dog would do; gently but firmly) we
 CH> have to d it RIGHT away; catch them in the act. Otherwise they won't
 CH> remember or now why you are correcting them if you do so later.

  I find the dog always forgives.  He has to in the pack and accept
his position.    

 CH> CM says to correct a dog in one way he makes a claw of his hand and
 CH> firmly but not abusively taps his fingers under the dogs jaw. This
 CH> emulates the other's teeth. I tried this with Cosmo when he licks the
 CH> couch (leather). It works! Never hit the dog.

   Thats universal.    I have never hit my dog.  No point nothing gained
 
 CH> I guess how it goes is that dogs don't understand "you're
okay". But
 CH> they do understand our body language and calm energy. :) THAT they
 CH> learn from. If we're calm that is. If we're fretful, they learn fear.

  All except the trip to the vet.   One vet he likes...no problem
they other he wants out the door.   I bring the muzzle and I calmly
look him in the eyes and talk to him, and allow nothing to be done
that might bring pain, as I did give my word.   That Rusty knows.

 CH> Treats just encourage begging. And it's they demanding something of
 CH> YOU. That makes them the pack leader. Gimme a treat or I won't do it.

 Nope.  He knows at certain spots in our rounds he does get a treat.
If he doesn't get it, he still goes.  No problems.

 CH> LOL. They'll do anything for a treat. But will they do it otherwise?
 CH> hmm! That's the true test of who the leader
 CH> of the pack is.

  Well Rusty is supposed to be the leader of the pack.  He does run
ahead to see whats going...but when a deer or moose shows, he is
in full retreat and goes from last place to leading us all out and

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