"TIM RICHARDSON -> JEFF SNYDER"  wrote in
news:17087$MATZDOBRE{at}JamNNTPd:

 JS>> In a debate, particularly the style of debates which normally occur
 TR> here JS>in FidoNet, the ultimate goal of the participants is usually
 TR> to prove or JS>substantiate the validity of their position over that
 TR> of another. There is JS>usually a lot of bravado involved, and
 TR> sometimes a lot worse, as some of JS>your own echoes have clearly
 TR> shown.


 TR> But, for the last 2000 or so years....God hasn't actually `talked' to
 TR> anyone.

You know why?

Because "God" never did talk to anyone.
It's only a fairytale.

 JS>> This is not, and never was, the original intent of the EDGE_ONLINE
 TR> echo. JS>In the EDGE_ONLINE echo, the goal is to carefully examine
 TR> God's Word, the JS>Bible, and then to arrive at the truth regarding
 TR> any particular issue. The JS>goal is to elevate the truth of the
 TR> Scriptures above personal opinion, JS>whether it is mine, yours or
 TR> anyone else's. After all, we are all only JS>human, and our opinions
 TR> and understandings can be wrong, but God's Word is JS>never wrong. In
 TR> short, the only position that is important, and valid, in JS>the
 TR> EDGE_ONLINE echo, is God's position, and we can only know what His
 JS>> position is regarding any particular issue, by studying the Bible.


 TR> And do you have even a clue as to a possible reason for that?

Because Jeff Snyder was hit too many time with a big family Bible,
causing brain damage.

His "rapture" never has happened, and never will.

 JS>> If you knew me and understood me better, you
 JS>> would realize that I don't even like to debate, because it is
 TR> usually a JS>waste of time anyway.


 TR> The fact is you're afraid to debate anything pertaining to religion in
 TR> general, or Christianity in particular. And the reason for that is,
 TR> there is so much scientific material out there that shows beyond a
 TR> doubt that the religious story line laid out in the bible, and
 TR> expounded by preachers, cannot possibly be true!

Bingo.

 TR> And you personally are not capable, mentally, to keep up with such a
 TR> debate.

 TR> Fact is, your experiences as a Christian are very limited, very
 TR> narrow-minded, your knowledge of the bible is rather fragmentary at
 TR> best, you know little of your subject matter, even less about how to
 TR> expound on the subject in a convincing manner, and you are one of
 TR> those growing number of individuals who give Christianity a bad name!


 TR> The first victim of your Christian world-view would be the silly
 TR> notion that Humans were created in the Garden of Eden just over six
 TR> thousand years ago.

Fundy creationists are convinced of this.

 TR> Fact is.....there is pretty conclusive scientific evidence that Human
 TR> Beings have been in existance for possibly a million years or more!


 TR> There are `civilizations' of Human Beings that date back over a
 TR> hundred thousand years!

 TR> So...there goes the Adam and Eve story (just over six thousand years
 TR> ago!) out the window!

Norw Jeff is going to call you "satanic."

 JS>> Other people draw upon other sources; that is their right too. We
 TR> are each JS>shaped by our own education, life experiences, etc.


 TR> Unfortunately, your `education, life experiences, etc,' are very
 TR> limited when it comes to religion, particularly the Christian
 TR> religion. You know little or nothing about it. You should have paid
 TR> more attenton in Sunday school.


 TR> Why hasn't god spoken to anyone for over two thousand years? What in
 TR> the world would he have to say to someone like you? You could almost
 TR> make him wish he'd used that little pile of dust for something
 TR> worhtwhile!

Because their view of history is pure fairytales.Even the book of Exodus
in the Bible is amost entirely a fabrication.

 TR> What you really `really' need to do is stop trying to expound on
 TR> religion in general, and Christianity in particular, outside that
 TR> narrow-focused little echo of yours. Because you are more of a
 TR> deterent to anyone thinking of turning to Christianity, than you are a
 TR> help.

You mean beyond help, but that's ok.

Jeff is a fundy whack job.

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