On (23 Nov 05) Steve Asher wrote to George Pope...
 SA>  SA> Nebo & view the land of Canaan, but because of trespass against
 SA>  SA> God,
 SA>
 SA>  GP> Yes, that was the stated reason, but it's apparent from the
 SA>  GP> circumstances that Moses was snookered into that whole sin/error
 SA>  GP> deal!
 SA>
 SA> Interesting. Do you have any evidence from scripture to back up that
 SA> claim? (Take your time)

How about the first time God asked Moses to give water to the people,
Moses was commanded to strike the rock with the staff.

This second time God says "take up thine rod(ie. the same as last time)
and speak to the rock" (a very subtle change in verb. . . the fact he
was told to take up the rod would make it seem obvious that a repeat
performance was required!)

 SA>  GP> Maybe because the prophets clearly taught that no mediator was
 SA>  GP> required, and the prophets spoke the Word of God?
 SA>
 SA> Interesting. Maybe the prophets did clearly teach that no mediator
 SA> was required, but I would prefer you to post some evidence from
 SA> scripture to support your view, given that Moses was effectively
 SA> the mediator of the covenant with Israel ... God spoke to and
 SA> through Moses. Were the prophets themselves not mediators?

Okay, from Scripture -- I don't know chapter/verse, but in Solomon's
dedication prayer for the temple, it was stated in Scripture, that any
time ANYONE turns towards(the language is inclusive of physical and
spiritual turning) the temple(ie. Jerusalem) and prays for God's
forgiveness/help, that God WOULD hear/heed that prayer!

Because I care,
<+]::-{)}  (Cyberpope(the Bishop of ROM!))




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 SA> If the prophets "clearly taught" that no mediator was required, why
 SA> did Jeremiah the prophet, in Jeremiah 31:31-32 record the Lord as
 SA> saying... "Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make
 SA> a new covenant with the house of Isael, and with the house of Judah:
 SA> Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the
 SA> day that I took them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant
 SA> they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord."
 SA>
 SA> What do you think that new covenant might be? Who do you think
 SA> the mediator of the new covenant might be?
 SA>
 SA> Cheers, Steve..
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