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echo: holysmoke
to: Ross Sauer
from: Ed Hulett
date: 2009-05-18 14:57:36
subject: Hello?

Ross Sauer -> Jeff Binkley wrote:
 RS> "Jeff Binkley -> Ross Sauer"  wrote
in news:10478
 RS> $HOLYSMOKE{at}JamNNTPd:

 RS>>>>> As to religious controversy, I'm watching the mess at Notre
 RC>>>>   Dame, a RS> mess created by a bunch of grandstanding
 RC>>>>   "Christians" and political RS> hacks
like the whack job Alan
 RC>>>>   Keyes.

 RC>>>> He supports abortion and stem cell research, Catholics oppose
 RC>>>> it, why cant they oppose him?

 RS>>> Obama supports *CHOICE* and research on embryos that are going to
 RS> be
 RS>>> thrown away, anyway.

 RS>>> These right-wingers use loaded language like
"pro-abortion" and
 RS> such,
 RS>>> to disort Obama's positions.

 RS>>> Extreme anti-choice measures have gone into effect, including
 RS> banning
 RS>>> abortions even if the pregnancy is threatening the woman's life, in
 RS>>> Central and a few South American countries.
 RS>>> And women are dying.

 RS>>> That is the goal of people like Keyes, Randall Terry and these
 RS>>> hypocrites among the minority that are yelling the loudest.

 JB>> And yet you say nothing about the 32+ million children that have been
 JB>> aborted since abortion was legalized.  You say nothing about the
 RS> hideous
 JB>> partial birth abortion.  It is all politics to you and your ilk.

 RS> It *IS* politics.

Abortion has nothing to do with politics despite how hard the left tries to
make it so.

 RS> Whether you like it or not.

You have no clue.

 RS> If it really was for the "life of the baby," these noisy
anti-choice
 RS> activists would be putting more efforts into advocating for prenatal and
 RS> postnatal care, and better education to prevent pregnancies in the first
 RS> place.

So, personal accountability is out of the question, eh? It's either public
funding for prenatal and postnatal care or legalized abortion?

What about the choice the potential parents made when they decided to have
unprotected sex?

 RS> Instead we get this "abtinence only" fantasy which while
in theory would
 RS> work, in practice it doesn't.

No one is advocating abstinence only. All that is asked is that abstinence
be taught as one form of birth control.

 RS> Just ask Bristol Palin.

She says that abstinence would have prevented her pregnancy.

 RS> You remember what abortion was like, *PRIOR* to Roe V. Wade?

Tell us all about it. I'm sure you knew how it was at the age of 10.

 RS> A hodgepodge of laws from state to state, with rich women paying under
 RS> the table or going on "European Vacations."

Abortion should be a state issue and not a federal one. That said, it
shouldn't have been the role of the USSC to make it legal. Roe v. Wade was
about a Texas law, not a federal one. To make abortion legal, the court had
to invent a right to privacy by removing the light of the rule of law and
produce a penumbra.

 RS> And poor women died.

The did? You saw that when you were a child?

 RS> There is one key word in this whole thing.
 RS> Control.

Yes, and women should control themselves if they don't want to become pregnant.

 RS> And the anti-choice activists want it.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

They aren't "anti-choice," they are pro-life.

You pro-abortion idiots are so anti-life that you deny abstinence as a
choice and want abortion all the way up to where a viable baby is killed
instead of given a chance at life. You call it a fetus so you can
dehumanize it and justify your support for abortion.

Ed

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