Hello Axel,

HD>> Why Monday?
HD>> It was written at sunday afternoon, 15 minutes past 3 o'clock.
HD>> 01:15 is also wrong as that was not the UTC/GMT time I was writing.

AB> No and to be correct it should not and must not be. +12:00 is the time
AB> zone you state, so that is the zone whose time you have to state.

Hmm.
The message should almost allways have the time and timezone of the location
of the writer, period.
That was me, and I was writing in Europe time zone +02:00 and not in NZ.
If choosen something else, than that should be convertered by the gater.
In this case, sort out the time zone of the writer, and subtract or ad the
difference with the time zone of the gate.
Now the gate mixes time and time zones ;-(.
As our time zone is +02:00 UTC/GMT in Europe and his Time Zone is +12:00 in NZ,
the gater should subtract 10:00 h. = the diff of the time zones,
from the writers time, to get an unchanged result everywhere.
I.e. sunday 15:15 +02:00 in NL.EU is the same as monday 01:15 +12:00 in NZ,
because that moment was sunday 13:15 +00:00 at UTC/GMT.

AB> Arguably the behaviour of the gateway is wrong,

So it is not me who is acting wrong, let that be very clear.

AB> but it is known, it is reproducable

Exactly.
Now we all have to try to get that corrected.

AB> and it your gateway of choice,

No, I did not choose that gateway directly, only indirectly.
I was reading and writing to a worldide FidoNet Echo Mail Area,
who some nice guy gated to and from an InterNet News group, thank him.
I am very happy with that Idea.

AB> so it's up to you to adapt your local time setting to yield
AB> correct results when passed through it.

Not at all.
It is primairy not my job to correct my behavior for the fault of someone
else, i.e. the gate. That's the opposite world.
Second, I am not allowed to use another time than my local time,
as that is against the FidoNet rules I think.
I only may use the time and time zone that corresponds to my physical
location, in this case Europe.
The only exception are FidoNet Points travelling around with a laplop in a
different time zone. Then they have to use that local time and time zone
where they are at that moment, or their home time if their system time and time
zone settings were unchanged.

The only fault at my side could be that my software doesnot put a time zone
kludge into my messages. But every sysop knows my location (see FidoNet
NodeList), and could find out the corresponding time zone, simple he? ;-). The
conversion of time settings is a job for the gate, not for the writer.

A solution could be to create a list of all the FidoNet writers here
with their Nodenumber, sysop name, Location and time zone?
Before feeding the FidoNet msg's to the gate,
convert the writers time to the corresponding NZ time, using that table.
Then there are never messages in the future, someone, not I had.
That guy could also change the time stamps some hours back before tossing
them into his messagebase.

But there is some hope.
When I am ready converting my UniCornBBS to another system
(probably a Pi 1B) with new software,
the problem may be go away if my "new" software does supply a time zone
kludge in the FidoNet messages.
I'll look especial to this kludge when I am configuring the new system.

I am not sure if this time zone kludge adding would solve the problem at the
gate?
Besides that, there are more FidoNet users at other systems writing here.
Then the problem is still there.
So I think the best solution is to solve the problem at the gate.
I am not the problem nor the solution, only mediating ;-).

Henri.

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