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from: James Marshall
date: 2004-04-09 14:50:36
subject: Re: Count-out: HHH vs. Shelton Benjamin

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dq831{at}freenet.carleton.ca (Jamie Rosen) writes:
>Dean (djmcosmo{at}yahoo.com) writes:
>> It's just my opinion, but to be
>> somewhat believeable, shouldn't there be a count when wrestlers are
>> out of the ring for EVERY match?

>There is. They're lenient about it sometimes, but there is. That's why
>wrestlers roll in and out of the ring to "break the count."
I've seen it a
>few times just recently (don't ask for specific matches, though, it's not
>something I keep a detailed record of.)

Agreed.  It's there, but it seems like most of the time the ref will yell
at the wrestlers first, telling them to get back in the ring, before they
actually start counting them out, especially if both of them are outside.
Wrestlers do roll in and out to break the 10 count and at times they also
go out for a break and the ref counts, making them get back in before 10.

>> I KNEW that SB was going to win VIA
>> COUNT OUT even before the match started!

>How? Before the match started, there was no indication of whether or not
>Earl Hebner would be "diligent" in his ten count.

You should be right, unless you know by past experience that he does
consistently use the 10 count the same way all the time.  But I don't
follow some of this stuff as closely as others here so people often see
things I don't.

>And WWF/E has used a ten count for as long as I've been watching wrestling
>(coming up on two decades, with a couple of breaks in the middle.) Other
>organizations use the 20 count (New Japan comes to mind.)

I haven't been watching wrestling all that long, but I can say that I've
only seen a 10 count in WWF/E, but a 20 count used in one or more other
companies.

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