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Hiya again Cindy...

  Yep back from the walk and the OM wants a treat...

 -=> Quoting Cindy Haglund to Peter Coggon <=-

 CH> They're acting out behaviors. I am going to look this up because like
 CH> you I am baffled as well. 

  I am always baffled by the dreaming thing.  All the so-called experts
where I worked and all the so-called courses never could answer it.

  He come along and flops down and goes to sleep.  Then first comes
his lips moving, and eye jerking, and then a yelp of it seems pain
and he starts his feet running.  It seems like he was in an accident
or he reacted before being hurt.  The yelp brings me, and from what
I do know... never lay a hand on a sleepin dog...my hand goes on 
very slowly, and soothing...and then he wakes up and he looks
absolutely relieved to be awake.

 CH> I too think while dogs first line of sensory perception is 
 CH> smell, then sight then hearing... they DO seem to
 
 Yes.  Only all together....

 CH> undestand certain words. It's uncanny you know? Maybe it is just the
 CH> sound... I'll Google Dog dream storides. :) Mabye we'll find
 CH> something. :)  Do dogs dream?

 Yes they do dream.  And yes they do have a grasp of words, and
now the OM knows how to spell...but I it all is sounds
he associates.

 CH> I think what Cesar might say is if the dog is 'having a dream' he is
 CH> proalbly channeling excess energy ... that way.... needs a walk.
 CH> I know how it is with me . If I don't get enough exercise I do not
 CH> sleep well. I am restless. Maybe that's true with dogs too.

  Don't know...my nights are spent with the after effects of meds.

  Rusty even when camping has dreams.  He runs himself into the
ground, and if it is too sunny...he gets a burn.  So much for
that one and as well camping.  Never camp with a dog.
 
 PC> All scents in the area where he has his private area, are not present
 PC> and certainly not the lad that hit him with a rock...as that is sight.
 PC> He reacted on sighting this lad, and remembered him.   Air flow that
 PC> day was the other way ...all sight.

 CH> AH but Peter. How do you know that? :) Dogs can smell what we can't
 CH> smell. The scent might even be on his own body. :) Or on his bedding
 CH> (having laid there after a good hunt)...

 You bet they can smell what we can not.  Seen them do that.  Watched
some really stupid breeds do some crazy things too.  My last dog
was smarter then the one now.  I know that.

The rock incident was interesting.  While no visible cuts or bumps
that lad was recognized by sight alone.  As for his bedding, I take
care of it once a week.

Now how do I know that?  Easy Cindy...being brought up rural, and with
dogs all my life, and even spending time out at night watching cattle
it was the dog that alerted me to something going on.  All his sensors
went off...he was up leaving my side like a bullet.  He looked in
the right direction, and when I turned on the light...he was proven
right.   Same way with this lad.   He finally admitted what he did
and it is all over now.  Rusty sees him and watches him and thats it.
 
 CH> The Kennels here require you get your dogs shots for kenel cough.
 CH> I think the dog "remembers" being left only if he assoicates a bad
 CH> experience with being left.

Yes.  He also thinks his place is with his pack.  Humans are his pack
and family.  You bet it is a bad experience.

 CH> I think they forgive because they don't remember in the first place.
 CH> Since they live in the here and now, they can't 'bear a grudge' or
 CH> feel guilty or any of that other human baggage stuff. .. Lucky them!
 CH> And we can do the same! Better off. Oddly dogs tend to learn from bad
 CH> experiences humans are bound to repeat...
 CH> .....................

Hmmm...no.  Rusty and all of them do remember people who were bad to
them.  All my dogs would give my sister a wide berth.  Today my niece
is given a wide berth but he does try to see if she has thawned.
 
 CH> Me either. BTW I am happy to annonce Abbie now walks to my left when
 CH> we come to this MUD patch on the sidewalk in our park... How I got her
 CH> to do that is to stop before we come to it and gently steer her to my
 CH> other side. :) ((Efforts to simply pull her away  didn't work.))
 CH> ...............

Ha ha...don't have that problem....as I say this I remember the OM
rolling in the pine needles to kill the human scent on his fur.


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