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echo: holysmoke
to: Ross Sauer
from: Ed Hulett
date: 2009-05-10 19:21:32
subject: Mormons and Christians

Ross Sauer -> Ed Hulett wrote:
 RS> "Ed Hulett -> Ross Sauer"  wrote in
 RS> news:10367$HOLYSMOKE{at}JamNNTPd:

 RS>>>>> Yes, and others hate Mormons. Hate as in wanting
them in hell.

 EH>>>> Those same people want you in hell.

 RS>>> Yes, because I'm not the same religion they are.

 EH>> Which says more about them than you.

 RS> So are they right?

No.

 RS>>> Of all beliefs, the one hated the most is atheists.

 EH>> Uh oh... you just said you had beliefs.

 RS>>> We are labeled as "not having morals," being
"Godless," and so
 EH>>   on.

 EH>> Well, you don't have any morals which is evident by your behavior.

 RS> Oh REALLY?

Oh really.

 RS> Are you saying I'm not a good adherent to Judaism like Bernie Madoff?

Huh? His behavior made it clear he wasn't a "good adherent to Judaism.

 RS> Not a good adherent to Christianity like Dennis Rader?

By their fruits you shall know them. Was Dennis Rader's behavior in line
with Christian beliefs?

 RS> Not a good adherent to Islam like Osama Bin Laden?

Again, do you think bin Laden is a good Muslim? Does his behavior reflect
the nature of Islam?

 RS> (Paraphrasing) "You aren't one of *OUR* religion, so you are EVIL!"

No true Christian would say any such thing.

 RS> That's what you are implying here, cultist.

You have a comprehension problem because I implied no such thing.

 RS>>> Yet the place you find the true scum of the Earth, prisons, the
 EH>>   largest RS> faith there is Christianity, and the smallest is
 EH>>   atheism.

 EH>> You are straining to make a point here that just doesn't exist.

 RS> It does exist. People who are religious still have the same urges and
 RS> moral failings they always had.

No one said any different. We all fall short in the eyes of God. Repentance
is a journey and not just a one time happening.

 EH>> Those Christians in prison are not the scum. They have all had life
 EH>> changing experiences when accepting Christ.

 RS> Oh RIIIIGGGHHHTTT!!!

Most of them do. Those who only say they accept Christ will no doubt show
their true colors soon enough.

 RS> They just "find Jesus" and everything is all hunky-dory!
(sarcasm off)

No. They still have to pay their debt to society. They need to repent for
their sins. Just "find[ing] Jesus" isn't the end of their
worries. Repentance is work.

 RS> Got news for you, cultist. Jesus doesn't cause a rape victim to become
 RS> un-raped.

No one said He did. Finding Jesus is only the first step. Asking
forgiveness and atoning for their sin is a long journey.

Or a robbery victim to become un-robbed. Or a murder victime
to become un-murdered.

Again, no one said they did.

It is blatantly obvious you have no clue how things work.

Ed

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