From: "Robert Comer" 

> Ok let me rephrase, it is possible to make vista think it's secure end to
> end..

I think it is, but it would be easier to hack it as the host OS, not a VM.

>Oh and as to the threat of piracy, that's exactly what I meant when I said
>it's their definition of not secure..

Agreed.

--
Bob Comer


"Geo."  wrote in message
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> Ok let me rephrase, it is possible to make vista think it's secure end to
> end.. Oh and as to the threat of piracy, that's exactly what I meant when
> I said it's their definition of not secure..
>
> Geo.
>
> "Robert Comer" 
wrote in message
> news:45e2e50f$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> Vista requires a secure video path for any HD video, if you virtualize
>>> the machine, vista thinks it's got a secure end to end path but it's
>>> talking to a virtualized end so it's really not secure.
>>
>> Not correct with regards to current VM software, the secure path is at
>> the hardware/ HW driver level and the VM doesn't have access to the
>> hardware layer of the host at all, it only has emulated devices (S3 Trio
>> and SB16 sound), so it's not DRM capably.  If Vista is in the VM, it
>> knows it has no secure path and wouldn't play HD.
>>
>>> As for not allowing any form in a VM, they don't allow watching HD video
>>> from vista if it's running in a VM (per the license agreement text that
>>> was posted in the thread).
>>
>> That's an interesting concept, the VM doesn't have to be Vista even if
>> the host might be.  If the HD content can be played on the emulated
>> minimal hardware, it would play, but the performance would be hit or
>> miss.
>>
>>>They claimed it wasn't secure to do so, what kind of security do you
>>>think they were talking about?
>>
>> I don't believe security has anything to do with it, otherwise the whole
>> VM scenario is not secure for anything.  I've read some interesting
>> discussions as to what it might really be, and the most plausable is just
>> the threat of piracy or money.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>

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