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to: Don Hills
from: Ellen K.
date: 2005-02-19 19:57:08
subject: Re: UPS questions

From: Ellen K. 

Well, I would really need full apps.   There are laptops with 6.5-hour
batteries now, a guy at work just got one.  I can handle 4 lbs.  

But I'm glad your baby works for you.   :)


On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 22:48:52 +1200, dmhills{at}attglobal.net (Don Hills) wrote
in message :

>In article ,
>Ellen K.  wrote:
>>
>>Last time they did at least give me extra batteries, only because I
>>screamed about all the time I wasted on the plane the time before.   The
>>laptop was a little Gateway and the batteries didn't weigh much so it
>>was OK.  The time before it was a   h e a v y   Dell.
>
>It sounds like you'd like a machine with the battery life of a PDA but the
>form factor of a small laptop. I have just such a machine. It gets at least
>10 hours on a charge (15 hours on the optional extended battery). It only
>weighs 2.5 pounds. It has a 90% size keyboard with a good feel, a touchpad
>and a full VGA screen. It has a full set of ports (serial, printer, modem,
>VGA, USB, PCMCIA, CF) so you can "plug in" in the office. It
runs WinCE and
>has built-in Pocket Office (IE, Outlook, Word, PowerPoint, Access and
>Excel).
>
>There's just one catch: You can't get one. It's an HP Jornada 820 palmtop,
>a discontinued model. And apparently they didn't sell well, so they dropped
>the whole palmtop line in favour of handhelds. Now the only choices are an
>ultraportable laptop (heavier, and only 3 to 4 hours battery life) or a
>handheld such as an iPaq with an add-on keyboard (screen too small for
>serious work.)
>
>I can understand why WinCE palmtops weren't popular. They were considered a
>cross between a PDA and laptop with the disadvantages of both. I used to
>think that way too, but when I found one in a scrapyard in perfect condition
>for US$7 it was just too good a deal to pass up. Now that I've used it for a
>while, I've realised that the right way to look at it is as having the
>advantages of a PDA and laptop, not the disadvantages. I lose pocketability
>and the ability to run "standard" Windows apps, but I get
PDA-style "instant
>on" and long battery life plus laptop ergonomics (keyboard, display, ports).
>I'm really going to miss it when it eventually dies (it's almost 8 years old)
>because I don't think there is anything on the market that can replace it.
>
>HP Jornada 820:
>http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/abouthp/histnfacts/museum/personalsystems/0038/

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